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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
I have never heard/felt ride comfort change when switching to stiffer sways.
it did for me... med, med.

In fact - with OEM struts and Eibach Pro the only thing I really felt from the sways was a stiffer ride - I never had the WOW factor that everyone talks about... sways are probably one of the least noticeable mods I have.

This is not to dissuade anyone - because clearly many others have experience much different than I did. I keep the sways on - but without other suspension upgrades I don’t think I'm benefiting all that much from OEM sway bars.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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Is the handling improvement you get very noticeable?
no. But I'm in the minority.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
I have never heard/felt ride comfort change when switching to stiffer sways.
One of the first things that ANY sway bar article will tell you is the INCREASE in harshness of the ride quality. You are connecting something that is, even on the softest setting, 20% to 100% stiffer than stock. It transfers road bumps laterally to the opposite wheel much more.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
One of the first things that ANY sway bar article will tell you is the INCREASE in harshness of the ride quality. You are connecting something that is, even on the softest setting, 20% to 100% stiffer than stock. It transfers road bumps laterally to the opposite wheel much more.
swaybar plays the same roll as any other metal that increases the stiffnes of the overall chassis. Its like saying 07 + G35 sedan is much stiffer and "harsh" because its chassis is overall stiffer which means there is a good possibility that the sways are also stiffer the pre 07 ones. Ride quality will be impacted but not to a level that me or u will notice. Having 10 psi less in ur tires will impact the ride quality more than having sways switched to hard to soft.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by honeybadger
Is the handling improvement you get very noticeable?
no, unless u push ur car to 90% its handling capabiltites at least every weekend.

THere have been times when i have gotten rid of a minor understeer with deflating the front tire by 6 psi. Will many notice a difference by fvcking with tire pressure? I highly doubt it.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
swaybar plays the same roll as any other metal that increases the stiffnes of the overall chassis. Its like saying 07 + G35 sedan is much stiffer and "harsh" because its chassis is overall stiffer which means there is a good possibility that the sways are also stiffer the pre 07 ones. Ride quality will be impacted but not to a level that me or u will notice. Having 10 psi less in ur tires will impact the ride quality more than having sways switched to hard to soft.
Except there is a big difference between increasing chassis stiffness(IE with the GT-Spec Bars) and increasing the stiffness between the independent suspension making it behave more like a solid axle. Ride quality is definitely affected by swaybar settings
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Except there is a big difference between increasing chassis stiffness(IE with the GT-Spec Bars) and increasing the stiffness between the independent suspension making it behave more like a solid axle. Ride quality is definitely affected by swaybar settings
as i said, the ride quality is affected but not as much as lets say going from 17s to 19 inch wheels or having 10 less PSI in a tire.

The only time i noticed a difference when changing the settings is when i drove like a maniac in familiar twisties.....
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
as i said, the ride quality is affected but not as much as lets say going from 17s to 19 inch wheels or having 10 less PSI in a tire.

The only time i noticed a difference when changing the settings is when i drove like a maniac in familiar twisties.....
Not exactly, your first statement is completely false
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
swaybar plays the same roll as any other metal that increases the stiffnes of the overall chassis. Its like saying 07 + G35 sedan is much stiffer and "harsh" because its chassis is overall stiffer which means there is a good possibility that the sways are also stiffer the pre 07 ones. Ride quality will be impacted but not to a level that me or u will notice. Having 10 psi less in ur tires will impact the ride quality more than having sways switched to hard to soft.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Not exactly, your first statement is completely false
not having a sway bar means more flex throughout the chassis when weight transfers one side to the other. So my statement is not completely false. Swaybar eliminates the roll of the body therefore making it more rigit overall which will yield to less flex on chassis.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
not having a sway bar means more flex throughout the chassis when weight transfers one side to the other. So my statement is not completely false. Swaybar eliminates the roll of the body therefore making it more rigit overall which will yield to less flex on chassis.
Sure, that is not the part of your statement that is false, it is that swaybars play the same role as any other piece of metal. Swaybars play and exponentially larger roll in overall roll and suspension characteristics compared to adding chassis stiffness
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Sure, that is not the part of your statement that is false, it is that swaybars play the same role as any other piece of metal. Swaybars play and exponentially larger roll in overall roll and suspension characteristics compared to adding chassis stiffness
That i agree. Yes in terms of my wording, i was wrong.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
That i agree. Yes in terms of my wording, i was wrong.
Glad we are on the same page. I know you understand what youa re talking about, just wanted to make sure it was clarified for everyone so people aren't under the wrong impression
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by honeybadger
Is the handling improvement you get very noticeable?
Handling improves quite a bit. A quick left-right-left felt very stable on the freeway. But I also notice that having sway adjust far too stiff in relative to your spring/shocks and makes your car feel disconnected at high g turns. It seems like at high speed turn, the load transfer to the sway more and the whole cars seems ponderous and floaty.
 

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