Nice. My last car was a Pontiac too. Our old cars look somewhat related.

 

MMMMMMMM Goat...5.7 or 6.0?

 

5.7. It was a 2004. Plenty of power for me though.

 

Buick GN/GNX can be built up cheap for a quick 1/4 mi time. The Gs suspension/drive train is simply not set up for optimal high power launches. But a quick 1/4 car will never be as stable on the freeway at twice the national speed limit.

 

My question for when I bought my car 2 months ago, was.... how come the G isn't as it should be STOCK. I mean, on paper it sounds great. 3500 balanced by 300hp doesn't seem underpowered, it has huge brakes and a well balanced chassis. But whenever I drive it, it doesn't feel sporty. It feels a bit sluggish and generally like a huge object. It's odd that they only run a mid 14 as well. The new g37 can run a 13.5 stock. That's almost a full second difference. From only 35hp and a slightly heavier body? It doesn't add up in my mind.

 

The power is there on a boosted G. The problem has always been putting it down.

 

This is what I wanted to get at.

Where does the problem begin and where does it end? What goes first? Axles, Diff, Tranny? If it's a built auto ( which I see they can handle well over 600whp built ) then it the auto should be much easier on the drivetrain as is. But how hard ( or weak ) are the other drivertrain components? 600whp SHOULD put a full weight G35 into the 10's with ease if you use a high stall converter and quick spooling turbos with slicks. I say SHOULD cause it's always easier said then done.

 

i thought about building a fully built G sedan as a sleepr but it would've looked funny w/ some huge slicks in teh rear like my friend Rocky's Z that ran 10.5@135 built from vinnytenracing.com... The suspension can hold it but the axle upgrade is a must.

 

It's the torque curve. 300hp sounds like a lot but it's only backed by 260lb-ft of torque fairly high in the rev band. Coupled w/ a 3500lb chassis and it won't be all that fast. Put the torque curve of the IS350 on the same scale and you'll see the IS makes a bit more torque down low and for a longer period. Considering all the fancy technology they have to wrangle into the IS motor to make that powerband wider(direct injection, dual injectors, & high compression), its no wonder the the G is relatively slower to 60 and so much cheaper. So despite weighing almost the same and having similar hp #'s, the IS 0-60 is sub 5 seconds and on par w/ the G37. That and the 6spd auto shifts better than most people in manuals.

 

So what you are trying to say is that the IS350 is faster than a G?

 

Would you argue its not? Assuming Toyota didn't underrate their motor, given similar stock hp levels you don't see a lot of 13 flat times out of stock first Gen G35's even Rev ups. Of course IS350's dyno significantly higher than G35's so it's possible the IS is working w/ a bit more power to begin w/. My brother's IS350 definitely would take me in a race and I'm assuming our 20's would slow us down equally of course.

 

That's HILLARIOUS. There's a GN in my parent's garage right now that just got BUILT over the winter. We're expecting 9.30's out of it...


You can kind of see it in that pic. It's a MONSTER. I'll post up a mod list if anyone's interested...I'll have to dig it up from TurboBuick forums

 

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^^^^ THat.... JUST... happened.. lol

 

It's because gran prixs are ugly and G35s aren't.

 

^^ True statement...yah, I'd back that up with fact...yup definitely would.