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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkCoupe
It's a widely accepted fact that what you drive is a direct reflection of who you are. This is the basis for Hyundai's success. Over the years Hyundai has taken the most desirable elements of the upscale market and produced knockoffs for thousands less. This was the case with the Genesis Coupe. It is a direct knockoff of the G35 Coupe. Which car was available first and proved to be wildely successful. Yes, that would be the 2003 G35. There are a few people that seem to think that the fact that the Infiniti is based on Nissans is somehow undesireable. That is actually the only reason I bought the G35. I had always wanted a Z car and the G35 being a 350 Z underneath but, being able to carry more stuff and with a back seat was just what I was looking for. The original 240Z was a very popular car and throughout the original product cycle the z cars were very desirable. They also accomplished a great sports car racing history.

If you take a close look at each individual Hyundai model you will find an upscale model it mimics. Yes, it will be thousands less will look similar and offer similar performance. There's also a widely accepted fact that you only get what you pay for. In order to produce a lower cost vechicle you must cut costs on the quality of parts and materials used. That's just a fact. Take a look at the posts on this forum where people are changing their exhausts, dropping their cars, buying wheels. The suggestions from fellow forum members are always save up until you can afford the quality name parts. The same goes for cars. If you think there aren't problems with Hyundai's go to and read the Hyundai forums.

Yes, both the 350 Z and the first gen G35 stand a very good chance of becoming classics. When they were first released there was nothing like them available. Watch the tv auctions and check out the models that become classics.
Great write up
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:37 AM
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They were a rebirth of the 240Z which in the day of competing with Triumph Roadsters, TR6, MGB's, became an icon. They made two sexy, performance coupes. One a little sportier the Z and one the luxary, performance model the G35. The auto press were describing the G35 coupe as the prettiest coupe being made. Different people collect different types of cars and there will be a market for these cars. The very fact that you don't realize shows a lack of understanding of the collectabiles market. I take it you don't own a 350Z or a 2003 G35. All the early 240z's and later, the Triumphs, MGB's Austin Healeys, Morgans, Mini Coopers(original) are now quite collectable. It won't happen quickly and they won't be at Pebble Beach but there will be a collectible market for them.
The only thing I don't realize is how much fan boism there is in this community. A collectible? Just like all the beat to **** 240zs I see goind around, being bought up by all the 16-22 year olds wanting to Tokyo drift the **** out of them? With deep dish wheels, making 300whp on their red tops, and their 4 points harnesses? Get real man, only people into Nissans will give a **** about them 30 years from now. Look who's buying them up right now in the used market, a bunch of kids pretending the G35 is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That is who cares about these cars on the used front. You will never have someone buy it, and dump $50k into it to get it back to showroom stock condition.

The only good thing it did was save Infiniti from going under, and I will give it that. But even with Infiniti's best effort at the time, and then again 5 years later with the G37, it couldn't even get the press to pick it over the 3-series competition. Even to this day Infiniti is still playing catch up to BMW.

Wanna know classics? E30 M3...that's a classic. MB 190 Evoluzione...that's a classic. Audi Quattro...that's a classic. 1972 Carrera RS 2.7...that's a classic...and those cars are not even that old (aside from the Porsche). And I've owned a G35, I've owned a 350z, and I've owned about 9 other cars and 3 bikes and I currently own a G37, and I appreciate it for what it is, but I am also aware of what it is not, and what it will never be.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the G35 sucks, in any way, shape or form, but when you think of a classic car, or even a collectible, it has to appeal to the masses of enthusiasts out there, and the G35 and the 350z just do not fall into that line of cars.

Originally Posted by BlkCoupe
Yes, both the 350 Z and the first gen G35 stand a very good chance of becoming classics. When they were first released there was nothing like them available.
Really? There was no 2 or 4 seat coupes available for that price? 2003 Rx8, 2003 S2000, 2003 330 Coupe, 2003 Mustang GT and Cobra, 2002 Camaro...all for around 25-35k at the time. There is more that I missed I'm sure. Like I said, nothing new was brought to the table.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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They had 7 years and I'm talking about the G35. G37 imo isn't the prettiest car and still performs similar to its older sibling. On a 13k budget my car has 4/2 pot brakes, it's only 70lbs heavier, and even with a 100k mi on it it's still just as fast as a Genesis. I do have to admit from the reviews the Genesis is supposed to be the better handling car. But keep in mind they did have an extra seven years. The G37, idk what what happened. I guess they were going for a more grown up car.
1. You car is not as fast as a Genesis, sorry to burst your bubble. It outperforms the G35 in every category.

But I am finally starting to understand your crazed fan-boi posts. It isnt that you like the G35 more, it is that you couldnt afford a Hyaundi. I know with a 13k budegt you selection field is pretty sad. Basically sold your Civic then you had to decide between a 350Z, G35, SRT4, or RSX. (all very used and out of warranty of course). I cant wait to see how you feel in acouple months when your G35 start to fall apart and you cannot afford to fix it.

I am also willing to bet you were one of those same retared Honda fan-bois acouple years ago on the forums, slamming the G35. Probably said that your civic was just as fast and the G35 was a waste of money and could never keep up with your civic through the twisties. But now that it has dropped into your lives-with-mommy salary range, it is the greatest car ever. I am sure in 5 year when you can afford a Genesis, it will become an instant classic as well.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Only time will answer this question. If I had kept every one of the cars that I have owned that are now bringing $$$ on the auction floor I'd be a very rich man. I'm always surprised by how much criticism is heaped on the G on this forum. If I owned a car that I didn't enjoy and enjoy driving I would unload it and get something else. Losing a few thousand dollars is not worth it to me to keep a car that I don't like. Luckily I don't have that problem...bought my Miata in 1989... bought the G in 2002.... just bought the Benz first year for the E Coupe. Crazed fan-boi of each one. When my G sells at auction I'll send you (thatoneguy) a photocopy of the check and if that never happens I still will have alot of years of enjoyment from owning it. The G35's looks are what made it unique not the number of doors, etc. I'm not saying classic as in the Mercedes Gullwing Coupe I'm saying collectable. There is a difference.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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It's well said about the demographics.

While I said prior the G35 and Genesis are performance equals, the G has a level of refinement that the Genesis does not.

That drives the older crowd to side with the G, more often than not even when they may know deep down the Genesis outperforms it.

All depends on what you want from life.
By 'refinement' you mean 77 TSBs and a tape deck right? A new genesis or sonata or even an elantra interior outclasses a G35 without question. The G37 is a much better contender with the Genesis. The G35 is a joke in comparison. I really dont know how you can say the Genesis and G35 are perfomance equals. The Genesis beats the G35 in every category.

It would be like comparing a G35 to a SRT4. You can say at the time there was nothing like it. It even set the land speed record for a stock 4 cylinder car. Does the G35 have any achievements at all? Only about 3,000 SRT4 neons were build in 2003, where as about 29000 G35s were built same year. So are you all going to say now that the SRT4 neon will become a classic car as well?
 

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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My 03' g coupe is 8 years old ........

i wasn't thinking beyond football practice and middle school 8 years ago. Without a doubt the styling of the g coupe will keep this car popular through the ages. There was a post in this thread i think on page 4 which referenced an RX7 and NSX and a supra MKIV .... the g-coupe will be joining these cars as one of the most desireable and beautiful cars ever. The genisis just came out ... still competing with 8 year old looks ... GG hyundai keep up the design theft, maybe some day you can come up with your own ORIGINAL design


if anyone thinks otherwise take a look at the equus or even the dam sonata, Lexus and mercedes copies through and through.

the genisis is a pile of ****, congrats on finaly releasing something to get people talking about it, 8 years too slow.


BTW absolutely obliterated a genisis coupe with my g35 and im almost stock ...... almost
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WhosUrBuddiee
1. You car is not as fast as a Genesis, sorry to burst your bubble. It outperforms the G35 in every category.

But I am finally starting to understand your crazed fan-boi posts. It isnt that you like the G35 more, it is that you couldnt afford a Hyaundi. I know with a 13k budegt you selection field is pretty sad. Basically sold your Civic then you had to decide between a 350Z, G35, SRT4, or RSX. (all very used and out of warranty of course). I cant wait to see how you feel in acouple months when your G35 start to fall apart and you cannot afford to fix it.

I am also willing to bet you were one of those same retared Honda fan-bois acouple years ago on the forums, slamming the G35. Probably said that your civic was just as fast and the G35 was a waste of money and could never keep up with your civic through the twisties. But now that it has dropped into your lives-with-mommy salary range, it is the greatest car ever. I am sure in 5 year when you can afford a Genesis, it will become an instant classic as well.


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cept, I think a genesis wouldn't be any faster then a g35 with a VQ35HR. Total drivers race
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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I really dont know how you can say the Genesis and G35 are perfomance equals. The Genesis beats the G35 in every category. They are equals, I'm pretty sure this has already been established. Apparently you don't do any real racing. Your racing probably consists of tenths of a sec on stat sheets

It would be like comparing a G35 to a SRT4. You can say at the time there was nothing like it. It even set the land speed record for a stock 4 cylinder car. Does the G35 have any achievements at all? Only about 3,000 SRT4 neons were build in 2003, where as about 29000 G35s were built same year. So are you all going to say now that the SRT4 neon will become a classic car as well?In 1964 there were over 121,000 mustangs producedhttp://www.muscularmustangs.com/database/1964.php
In addition to that you apparent have no taste.

Evidence:
- saw your G, it was a tokyo drift wannabe, what were you thinkin

- you have a Sonata
- lastly, have you seen an SRT-4 before, open your eyes, low production numbers equals low demand, take an economics course
 

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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cept, I think a genesis wouldn't be any faster then a g35 with a VQ35HR. Total drivers race
Hey, RR. I don't know what he's paying you, but you need to get off your knees and have some pride for yourself. Because once again he has made a stupid comment and you sided with him again.
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DomeP1ece
My 03' g coupe is 8 years old ........

i wasn't thinking beyond football practice and middle school 8 years ago. Without a doubt the styling of the g coupe will keep this car popular through the ages. There was a post in this thread i think on page 4 which referenced an RX7 and NSX and a supra MKIV .... the g-coupe will be joining these cars as one of the most desireable and beautiful cars ever. The genisis just came out ... still competing with 8 year old looks ... GG hyundai keep up the design theft, maybe some day you can come up with your own ORIGINAL design


if anyone thinks otherwise take a look at the equus or even the dam sonata, Lexus and mercedes copies through and through.

the genisis is a pile of ****, congrats on finaly releasing something to get people talking about it, 8 years too slow.


BTW absolutely obliterated a genisis coupe with my g35 and im almost stock ...... almost
I agree with everything you said
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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1. You car is not as fast as a Genesis, sorry to burst your bubble. It outperforms the G35 in every category.

But I am finally starting to understand your crazed fan-boi posts. It isnt that you like the G35 more, it is that you couldnt afford a Hyaundi. I know with a 13k budegt you selection field is pretty sad. Basically sold your Civic then you had to decide between a 350Z, G35, SRT4, or RSX. (all very used and out of warranty of course). I cant wait to see how you feel in acouple months when your G35 start to fall apart and you cannot afford to fix it.

I am also willing to bet you were one of those same retared Honda fan-bois acouple years ago on the forums, slamming the G35. Probably said that your civic was just as fast and the G35 was a waste of money and could never keep up with your civic through the twisties. But now that it has dropped into your lives-with-mommy salary range, it is the greatest car ever. I am sure in 5 year when you can afford a Genesis, it will become an instant classic as well.
Never owned a Civic in my life, only one I'd ever consider is an NSX. Now your trying to make fun of a poor college student, great job buddy. I've had my G for 2 years now and I'll bet it stays intact longer than your POS Sonata. Have fun with your FWD soccer mom car that got its styling from other automakers. And I really can't believe your going for the warranty argument, only guys that wear polo shorts and have whipped cream on their coffee wud go for such an argument.
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WhosUrBuddiee
1. You car is not as fast as a Genesis, sorry to burst your bubble. It outperforms the G35 in every category.

But I am finally starting to understand your crazed fan-boi posts. It isnt that you like the G35 more, it is that you couldnt afford a Hyaundi. I know with a 13k budegt you selection field is pretty sad. Basically sold your Civic then you had to decide between a 350Z, G35, SRT4, or RSX. (all very used and out of warranty of course). I cant wait to see how you feel in acouple months when your G35 start to fall apart and you cannot afford to fix it.

I am also willing to bet you were one of those same retared Honda fan-bois acouple years ago on the forums, slamming the G35. Probably said that your civic was just as fast and the G35 was a waste of money and could never keep up with your civic through the twisties. But now that it has dropped into your lives-with-mommy salary range, it is the greatest car ever. I am sure in 5 year when you can afford a Genesis, it will become an instant classic as well.
U have no right to say that to anyone who cares what he has its his choice and really u have no right being on these forums insulting someone that's not what this place is ment for. U wanna talk realistically just think of hyndai compared to infiniti its like a lexus isf and a cobalt ls in comparison pure knock off is what the companys about they try and replicate everything mercedez does anyway at least our cars are original. Yea I bought my car used 8300 with a 17k$ budget from my G6 getting totaled but I'd still make my choice over and over I guess if I paid more for a car of less quality I'd be upset too....
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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And I do apologize cause I don't like insulting someones car nomatter what they drive but ur not having a debate ur insulting a fellow member and an very supprised a moderator has allowed buddies post to remain. If u wanna talk about sonatas being awsome go to sonatadriver.com I'm sure after they all figure out how to use computers the sight will really take off
 
Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by McLaren23
In addition to that you apparent have no taste.

Evidence:
- saw your G, it was a tokyo drift wannabe, what were you thinkin

- you have a Sonata
- lastly, have you seen an SRT-4 before, open your eyes, low production numbers equals low demand, take an economics course

OK Kid,
Yes I did a custom lambo orange paint job on my 2nd G35 back in 2006. I could count the number of people on this site doing custom work on my fingers. I am sure back then, you would have nutted all over it, while driving your moms minivan to highschool. It is called trying something new. I know you perfer to wait 8 years until everything is played out, buy your used parts cheap and not really do any real work yourself. I had more custom parts on my cars than you have total mods on yours. When you inovate, it is alot of trial and error. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt.

Here is my old G37, want to talk trash about it as well?



 
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saw a sonota the other day, what an ugly pos, hahahahahahahaha!
 


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