It's more of a grand tourer hence the GT name. Just trying to illustrate that I have an American V8 powered car so I understand both sides.

I don't think I ever stated I thought it was a muscle car although it has the V8 portion of the definition.

I don't think much about G35s or G37s anymore either. Though I used to have a modded one last year.

Makes sense. You kinda get used to any car. And it ends up being just a car. Everyone wants to know what is the "best" car.....there is no best.

the best car is a McLaren F1

But you're comparing 60's technology to modern tech. 225HP/300 TQ might not be much by today's standards for a V8, but back inthe 80's and 90's breaking 200HP on any engine was a big deal. Ford's own V6 Mustang is pushing 305HP these days...the same rating as their 96-98 Cobra's

You are right, the old 5.0 is a dinosaur motor by today's comparisons and I'm not going to say otherwise. I might be biased by owning one of these antique's, but I know when to call it how it is. I have video of my own sedan beating a Fox 5.0 at the drag strip.

I roll my eyes with the rest of them when i see a 18-year old in a beat up, 200K mile Fox Mustang with straight pipes running 15 second ET's and revving at everything and anything on the highway.

But i still love my 5.0

Old 5.0 ftw, I loved my old one

Well that escalated quickly...

Sure did... from 0 to nowhere in 3 weeks.

That would make it one of the busier threads on driver, all things considered.

Shut up ricer.

what I ask my wife to do to me is my business!!!

There is no way AmateurRN is getting kicked off again.....

The best track in the world is Spa Francochamps in Belgium. I have seen this track and tv does not do it justice!

I generally agree. But Ford used their 5.0s up until fairly recently. Until the brought out their modular 4.6s. And they used their REALLY old vortech v6s until recently also. I feel sorry for anyone that bought a 2009 v6 mustang

The biggest difference between the VQ and the 5.0 is that you can bolt on 100 hp easy to a 5.0, you are lucky to get 35HP with a VQ. Yes, yes, I know there are some out there with more than that, but you put the same mods on each, and the ol' Ford will get more than the Nissan.

haha, pretty sure there's a lot more important differences than that. Like v6, aluminum block, aluminum head, variable valve timing, dohc/4 valves per cylinder, fuel injection, fuel efficiency. The technology is so far advanced in these 40 years, it's kind of retarded to compare them.

I mean:
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=270875
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=108438

specific HP of 42.5hp/l to 80, specific torque of 81nm/l to 104.63, BMEP of 147.5psi to 190.7, obviously technology wins.

But then again, it's not like that ford 302 engine was a remarkable piece of engineering in its day either. I mean compare it to equivalent cars of that era:

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=34859
1968 Toyota 2000 GT: 74.4 bhp/l, 88nm/l, BMEP 160psi

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=35992
1969 Nissan Skyline GT-R: 80.4 bhp/l, 88.5 nm/l, BMEP161.3psi

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=56716
1972 BMW 3.0 CSL: 65.6 bhp/l, 90.6 nm/l, BMEP 165.1psi

even compared to other fords:
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=271062
1971 ford 351: 49.4hp/l, 87 nm/l, BMEP 158.7

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=276397
1969 boss 429: 53.4 hp/l, 94.7 nm/l, BMEP 172.5

Then again, I guess I don't really know what the equivalent cars were, haha. I wasn't even born then and I don't want to go rooting around for MSRP's. If anyone is more familiar, feel free to tell me if I am making poor comparisons and what I should be looking at.

edit: oh yeah, and here are modern mustangs, from same source:
v6: 82bhp/l, 102nm/l, BMEP 185.9
v8: 84.8bhp/l, 107nm/l, BMEP 194.7