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Old 12-21-2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jninja26
I don't really think of the g8 as a muscle car....I don't think much of the g8 at all really.
It's more of a grand tourer hence the GT name. Just trying to illustrate that I have an American V8 powered car so I understand both sides.

I don't think I ever stated I thought it was a muscle car although it has the V8 portion of the definition.

I don't think much about G35s or G37s anymore either. Though I used to have a modded one last year.
 
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Old 12-21-2012 | 04:06 PM
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Makes sense. You kinda get used to any car. And it ends up being just a car. Everyone wants to know what is the "best" car.....there is no best.
 
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Old 12-21-2012 | 04:07 PM
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the best car is a McLaren F1
 
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Old 12-26-2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You can call it what you want, the old 5.0 from Ford has been outclassed by the import V6s for years until they introduced their all new V6 in 2010-2011
But you're comparing 60's technology to modern tech. 225HP/300 TQ might not be much by today's standards for a V8, but back inthe 80's and 90's breaking 200HP on any engine was a big deal. Ford's own V6 Mustang is pushing 305HP these days...the same rating as their 96-98 Cobra's

You are right, the old 5.0 is a dinosaur motor by today's comparisons and I'm not going to say otherwise. I might be biased by owning one of these antique's, but I know when to call it how it is. I have video of my own sedan beating a Fox 5.0 at the drag strip.

I roll my eyes with the rest of them when i see a 18-year old in a beat up, 200K mile Fox Mustang with straight pipes running 15 second ET's and revving at everything and anything on the highway.

But i still love my 5.0
 
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Old 12-26-2012 | 10:29 AM
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Old 5.0 ftw, I loved my old one
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 03:12 AM
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Well that escalated quickly...
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 03:19 AM
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Sure did... from 0 to nowhere in 3 weeks.
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 03:27 AM
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That would make it one of the busier threads on driver, all things considered.
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TMichealK
Hey guys I'm new to the form but had a question for everyone. Have you experienced hate from other people because of your car? I hate when some idiot in his muscle car pulls up and revs his engine and talks crap about imports or someone calls you a "ricer" It is so unnecessary and pointless, personally I love all types of cars but I love my tuner imports more so. Post your stories of hate from other people, just curious.
btw i drive a 2005 G35 sedan, bone stock except for a plenum spacer and z tube
Shut up ricer.
 

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Old 12-27-2012 | 07:02 AM
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what I ask my wife to do to me is my business!!!
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 09:58 AM
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There is no way AmateurRN is getting kicked off again.....
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 01:36 PM
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the best car is a McLaren F1
The best track in the world is Spa Francochamps in Belgium. I have seen this track and tv does not do it justice!
 

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Old 12-27-2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5
But you're comparing 60's technology to modern tech. 225HP/300 TQ might not be much by today's standards for a V8, but back inthe 80's and 90's breaking 200HP on any engine was a big deal. Ford's own V6 Mustang is pushing 305HP these days...the same rating as their 96-98 Cobra's

You are right, the old 5.0 is a dinosaur motor by today's comparisons and I'm not going to say otherwise. I might be biased by owning one of these antique's, but I know when to call it how it is. I have video of my own sedan beating a Fox 5.0 at the drag strip.

I roll my eyes with the rest of them when i see a 18-year old in a beat up, 200K mile Fox Mustang with straight pipes running 15 second ET's and revving at everything and anything on the highway.

But i still love my 5.0
I generally agree. But Ford used their 5.0s up until fairly recently. Until the brought out their modular 4.6s. And they used their REALLY old vortech v6s until recently also. I feel sorry for anyone that bought a 2009 v6 mustang
 
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Old 12-27-2012 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5
But you're comparing 60's technology to modern tech. 225HP/300 TQ might not be much by today's standards for a V8, but back inthe 80's and 90's breaking 200HP on any engine was a big deal. Ford's own V6 Mustang is pushing 305HP these days...the same rating as their 96-98 Cobra's

You are right, the old 5.0 is a dinosaur motor by today's comparisons and I'm not going to say otherwise. I might be biased by owning one of these antique's, but I know when to call it how it is. I have video of my own sedan beating a Fox 5.0 at the drag strip.

I roll my eyes with the rest of them when i see a 18-year old in a beat up, 200K mile Fox Mustang with straight pipes running 15 second ET's and revving at everything and anything on the highway.

But i still love my 5.0
The biggest difference between the VQ and the 5.0 is that you can bolt on 100 hp easy to a 5.0, you are lucky to get 35HP with a VQ. Yes, yes, I know there are some out there with more than that, but you put the same mods on each, and the ol' Ford will get more than the Nissan.
 
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Old 12-28-2012 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
The biggest difference between the VQ and the 5.0 is that you can bolt on 100 hp easy to a 5.0, you are lucky to get 35HP with a VQ. Yes, yes, I know there are some out there with more than that, but you put the same mods on each, and the ol' Ford will get more than the Nissan.
haha, pretty sure there's a lot more important differences than that. Like v6, aluminum block, aluminum head, variable valve timing, dohc/4 valves per cylinder, fuel injection, fuel efficiency. The technology is so far advanced in these 40 years, it's kind of retarded to compare them.

I mean:
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=270875
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=108438

specific HP of 42.5hp/l to 80, specific torque of 81nm/l to 104.63, BMEP of 147.5psi to 190.7, obviously technology wins.

But then again, it's not like that ford 302 engine was a remarkable piece of engineering in its day either. I mean compare it to equivalent cars of that era:

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=34859
1968 Toyota 2000 GT: 74.4 bhp/l, 88nm/l, BMEP 160psi

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=35992
1969 Nissan Skyline GT-R: 80.4 bhp/l, 88.5 nm/l, BMEP161.3psi

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=56716
1972 BMW 3.0 CSL: 65.6 bhp/l, 90.6 nm/l, BMEP 165.1psi

even compared to other fords:
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=271062
1971 ford 351: 49.4hp/l, 87 nm/l, BMEP 158.7

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=276397
1969 boss 429: 53.4 hp/l, 94.7 nm/l, BMEP 172.5

Then again, I guess I don't really know what the equivalent cars were, haha. I wasn't even born then and I don't want to go rooting around for MSRP's. If anyone is more familiar, feel free to tell me if I am making poor comparisons and what I should be looking at.

edit: oh yeah, and here are modern mustangs, from same source:
v6: 82bhp/l, 102nm/l, BMEP 185.9
v8: 84.8bhp/l, 107nm/l, BMEP 194.7
 

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