300rwhp N/A???? is it possible?
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11-03-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by AthenG
Good luck on hitting 300WHP with just that
Oh, also good luck on $3600 with parts and labor. Cams can cost you 1000-1200 just for labor and about the same price for parts (for 15 whp gain ). You will not be the first to install Cams, Headers, EMS w/ Tune, Exhaust, Spacer... ) And the only person that I know here that used to have over 300whp NA beast is ISMSOLUTIONS. Trust me he does have much much more than that to actually break the 300whp club. Hint: Ask ISMSOLUTIONS on what mod he did on his bottom end, I think he actually have a totally different short block on his NA beast. I doubt he will tell us coz a lot of people already did.
Yes, you are dreaming.
If it is that easy then everyone would have 300whp car... Name me at least 3 people here that has over 300whp NA beast?
Oh, also good luck on $3600 with parts and labor. Cams can cost you 1000-1200 just for labor and about the same price for parts (for 15 whp gain ). You will not be the first to install Cams, Headers, EMS w/ Tune, Exhaust, Spacer... ) And the only person that I know here that used to have over 300whp NA beast is ISMSOLUTIONS. Trust me he does have much much more than that to actually break the 300whp club. Hint: Ask ISMSOLUTIONS on what mod he did on his bottom end, I think he actually have a totally different short block on his NA beast. I doubt he will tell us coz a lot of people already did. Yes, you are dreaming.
If it is that easy then everyone would have 300whp car... Name me at least 3 people here that has over 300whp NA beast?
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Originally Posted by extreme4377
I never said it would be cheap, nor easy, I just said I wanted it done. Its easy to go FI, its not easy to build the 300WHP NA "beast". I want to be different. Ive never been a big fan of forced induction to be honest. So, 300WHP NA is my goal.
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you know reading all these post saying the cost of running n/a and FI and how n/a cost alot of internal and that FI is cheaper blah blah blah. Here is my two cent even if you go FI you will eventually have to start moddding the internals so you might as well start moding as if you were getting n/a to hit 300rwhp once you achieve it then slap a turbo of FI to make it even more. PUHAHAHAHAHA
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Originally Posted by God|ZIlla168
you know reading all these post saying the cost of running n/a and FI and how n/a cost alot of internal and that FI is cheaper blah blah blah. Here is my two cent even if you go FI you will eventually have to start moddding the internals so you might as well start moding as if you were getting n/a to hit 300rwhp once you achieve it then slap a turbo of FI to make it even more. PUHAHAHAHAHA
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11-03-2006, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by extreme4377
I never said it would be cheap, nor easy, I just said I wanted it done. Its easy to go FI, its not easy to build the 300WHP NA "beast". I want to be different. Ive never been a big fan of forced induction to be honest. So, 300WHP NA is my goal.
I'm with you on that...
If I had a choice and $$$ is no object then nothing can replace an Engine screaming at 12K RPM. I have mad respect for NA's guys, and like Skunk2 said in an article, any monkey can throw in a Turbo and be fast. Realistically, I would say prepare to spend close to $10K or maybe more to go over 300+whp (Not inflated Dyno) coz there is lots of lots of tunning required.Good luck and when you have achieved your goal and wanted to sell the parts half price, I'll be first in line
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Originally Posted by j-velocity
I am wondering the same as well.
MREV2 + spacer (15+WHP)
MREV2 + spacer (15+WHP)
). though you can feel the power it won't win any awards on bragging right. If I'm not mistaken Mrev+/spacer actually hurt the last few hundred RPM power. if you look at the Dyno, you'll see that Mrev/space on a revup engine actually lost power on the last few hundred RPM but did increase the power on the midrange (3.5K to 6K RPM).
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
I call BS on the FD affecting the 1/4 that much. Out of all the people that have done the FD, here and on my350z, has posted 1/4 gains. Not one. I've seen a few z's that said the difference is negligible.
And a lightweight flywheel definitely hurts your 1/4. Believe me. It hurts your launch(bog), and doesn't keep the momentum up between shifts; it really hurts your top-end. It hurts mine.
You want 12's, NA? Do a popcharger, test pipes, get a utec plus a *good* tune, some lightweight wheels and slicks. It won't be easy, but it's possible. If you're not afraid of doing internals, do some cams. But that's gonna be pricey.
And a lightweight flywheel definitely hurts your 1/4. Believe me. It hurts your launch(bog), and doesn't keep the momentum up between shifts; it really hurts your top-end. It hurts mine.
You want 12's, NA? Do a popcharger, test pipes, get a utec plus a *good* tune, some lightweight wheels and slicks. It won't be easy, but it's possible. If you're not afraid of doing internals, do some cams. But that's gonna be pricey.
Before you call BS, do your research! Look up member "Zillinois" on my350Z. This is the guy I talked to when I considered the FD. He has ran low 13's in his Z and he'll tell the FD does help. Quid pro quo. Give me a name of a guy who said it didn't help in the 1/4 mile.
As far as the flywheel, to each his own, but I've personally cut a 2.0 60' with the JWT 14 lb flywheel on street tires.
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11-04-2006, 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by NaztyG
debating the road i wanna take with my car this winter and i was curious if anyone has modified their car N/A and dyno'd over 300rwhp? Or the highest N/A dyno and 1/4 time possible w/out internals. and what were the mods?.. thanks guys
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-Adam
i was quite impressed
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Originally Posted by JDM 350GT
a guy in my forum put down upper mid 300WHP on dyno couple months ago w/o putting lots of work into it.
i was quite impressed
i was quite impressed
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