R.I.P. 2 My 04 IP Coupe =(

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Nov 12, 2006 | 07:26 PM
  #31  
hurts to see a fellow ip in that kind of shape...well best of luck and great to hear that you made it out ok...driver safer
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Nov 12, 2006 | 07:31 PM
  #32  
damn thats fcked up.......good to hear that your ok........sad to see the car go
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Nov 12, 2006 | 08:29 PM
  #33  
Quote: good luck.. it's good that you're recovering so quickly! you're up and on the forum already lol. good luck!


haha yeah i've been on this forum for almost 3 years even before i had the G, thanks everybody for showing the love.. be safe
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Nov 12, 2006 | 08:44 PM
  #34  
Sorry to see that g look like that..Glad to see that ur ok.!!
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Nov 12, 2006 | 09:25 PM
  #35  
OMG, I'm sorry about your accident, glad you're OK and that your baby daughter was not in the car at the time. The car is replaceable, that's what insurance is for. Hopefully, you'll won't be in too much ache and pain in the next feel days. Take care.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 02:12 AM
  #36  
Sorry to hear about yoru lost weezee..I feel your pain..keep your head up and im picking up my s14 monday
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Nov 13, 2006 | 02:34 AM
  #37  
You must of panicd, your vdc was off right?
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Nov 13, 2006 | 03:05 AM
  #38  
why do i keep hearing and seeing cars like ours, loose control all the time in the rain? driver error or POS car?

my integra in front wheel drive, bad tires and never spun on me in heavy rain.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 03:28 AM
  #39  
Quote: why do i keep hearing and seeing cars like ours, loose control all the time in the rain? driver error or POS car?

my integra in front wheel drive, bad tires and never spun on me in heavy rain.
I"m guessing VDC was off, because I sort of did that twice with mine in the rain (I always have VDC on), while accelerating up the hill near my house. the first time it happened while I shifted, the second time it just happened after I passed 4000rpm. (I was accelerating from a stop). Both times I was going about 35-45.

Both times, the back end popped out and the VDC blinked. Both times, I just eased the gas and gripped the wheel tight, and both times, the car fixed itself in less time than I can realize what happened.

And just so people don't think G35's are unsafe. I did this with our TL too in the exact same spot a few nights ago, in a rainstorm, in the same circumstances. I think it was actually scarier in the TL than our G35. At least in the G35, the wheel stayed put and I kept tracking straight, while the tail drifted side to side.

In the TL, the wheel violently snapped out of my hands, and the front of the car lunged to the left. VSA light blinked, and I held the wheel tight as a rock and eased the gas, but the wheel kept wanting to rip-itself out of my hands, as the front of the car kept going in every which way, except straight. After about a second or two, the car calmed down.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 09:28 AM
  #40  
i think VDC must've been off.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 09:31 AM
  #41  
damn that sucks sorry to hear that
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Nov 13, 2006 | 09:55 AM
  #42  
VDC = there for a reason.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 10:37 AM
  #43  
When it rains, it's safer to be in an Auto. I read it somewhere.
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Nov 13, 2006 | 01:52 PM
  #44  
o geeezzes im really glad to hear you are doing better and that your daughter wasnt in that car at the time! thats extremely scary! did you have worn out tires? man i need to get tires because its starting to rain here and i only got about a mm or 2 left of tire tread on my rears!
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Nov 13, 2006 | 02:13 PM
  #45  
Glad you are ok. And I hate to see a nice IP crunched. Here's to a fast and full recovery.

And here we go with the VDC.

First of all, that road looks like glass it's so smooth and wet.

Secondly, not being much of a fan of the VDC in good conditions, I do tend to leave it on in bad conditions. But I've tested it in the wet to see just how much use it is and it simply allows a ton of straight-line wheelspin in the wet. Sure it will still step in when there is lateral slippage, if there is enough lateral g-force to indicate cornering, but you're out of luck if you think it's going to help in straight-line acceleration in the wet. We haven't had enough snow for me to be able to test straight-line in the snow, but I don't see how it would behave any differently.

The VDC can keep the tail in check when exiting a corner too fast, and it might help out if you find yourself completely oversteering a corner, but it shouldn't be considered a significant traction aide.

Simply put, it's not going to help when accelerating from a stop in a straight line. Add some inclination to that smooth, wet road and it's going encourage the tail to wiggle. I don't think there is enough lateral g-force as such low speed, and perhaps a lack of steering angle, to get the VDC to intervene. Likewise, a lot of us have seen enough of these posts to know that the VDC can't correct a situation that's too far gone.

Those of you who drive aggressively with the VDC on should really go somewhere safe to see just what it will and will not do. As long as you're there, try it with the VDC off as well. It encourages the level of respect that not just the car deserves but, more importantly, the respect that the conditions deserve as well.
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