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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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heal and toe tips

how the hell am i able to heal and toe with my long *** toes!?
anyone that's 6'0+ and 250lbs. know how to heal and toe on our Gs?
i could never seem to lift my ankles to reach the gas!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaRefuGz
how the hell am i able to heal and toe with my long *** toes!?
anyone that's 6'0+ and 250lbs. know how to heal and toe on our Gs?
i could never seem to lift my ankles to reach the gas!
if you have big feet dude it should be really easy for you. I have big feet and I can do it with ease. You shouldn't be asking for driving advice here. Plus you don't need to heal toe it unless you are auto-xing or going to open track events, or tackling the mountain passes. Any other use of it is completely unneccessary.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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For the most part you don't heel and toe anymore, pedals are different nowadays. Please read this thread:

https://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/126021-6mt-people-one-you.html
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fcarpio
For the most part you don't heel and toe anymore, pedals are different nowadays. Please read this thread:

https://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126021
OK... FWIW I don't really agree.

I know a lot of people don't bother with H&T....
Doesn't means you shouldn't be doing it.

I do it all the time, especially if I'm getting down to lower gears.
H&T lets you brake & get into the proper gear entering a corner at the same time.
Keeps the car much more balanced
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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I use the brake and side of the foot technique sometimes in everyday driving just to practice. Having to make a left turn when the light is about to turn red is where it usually helps
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
OK... FWIW I don't really agree.

I know a lot of people don't bother with H&T....
Doesn't means you shouldn't be doing it.

I do it all the time, especially if I'm getting down to lower gears.
H&T lets you brake & get into the proper gear entering a corner at the same time.
Keeps the car much more balanced
++1

I completely agree. It isn't "necessary" but it's still a good skill to master. If you ever intend to track your car or go to racing events H&T proficiency is a huge plus. You should learn to grab your gear while braking BEFORE turning in. If you are at the limits of the car in the middle of a turn you would have to make a perfect shift not to upset the balance and weight distribution on the tires.

I do it most of the time because it's just plain fun.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaRefuGz
how the hell am i able to heal and toe with my long *** toes!?
anyone that's 6'0+ and 250lbs. know how to heal and toe on our Gs?
i could never seem to lift my ankles to reach the gas!
I pretty much match your specs and I just roll my foot over so the left side of my right foot is on the brake and the right side blips the throttle. Some shoes make it easier than others so try with a few different pairs.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
OK... FWIW I don't really agree.

I know a lot of people don't bother with H&T....
Doesn't means you shouldn't be doing it.

I do it all the time, especially if I'm getting down to lower gears.
H&T lets you brake & get into the proper gear entering a corner at the same time.
Keeps the car much more balanced
Sorry I was not specific enough, H&T is not done the old fasion way since pedals are designed differently. We do it more like pinky toe and toe. That is what I mean.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel1
I pretty much match your specs and I just roll my foot over so the left side of my right foot is on the brake and the right side blips the throttle. Some shoes make it easier than others so try with a few different pairs.
+1

Im sure ur foot is big enough to press both pedals at once to do it.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
OK... FWIW I don't really agree.

I know a lot of people don't bother with H&T....
Doesn't means you shouldn't be doing it.

I do it all the time, especially if I'm getting down to lower gears.
H&T lets you brake & get into the proper gear entering a corner at the same time.
Keeps the car much more balanced
It shouldn't be done on the street unless you are pushing it hard and are breaking hard right before you gun it again. It's really bad for your tranny to be doing it in day to day town and traffic. Now I understand why you kids are only getting 30k out of your clutches. lol!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I think its pretty practical to know how to H&T! Even on the street its useful! I find myself doing it when I'm having fun on the highway exits or around quick turns around town. BUT i found its reallyyy useful when a$$holes decide to stop short a bit up the road, and rather than just throw it into neutral I use the engine compression and H&T to slow the car down properly. So far I havent rear ended anyone yet! haha Using H&T doesn't hurt the engine as long as you aren't over-revving or under-revving. Once you get it down pretty pat its actually better to downshift the transmission smoothly when coming to a stop with a manual than just coasting the engine in neutral. If kids knew how to drive stick shift cars they wouldnt burn their clutches out at 30K =)
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
It shouldn't be done on the street unless you are pushing it hard and are breaking hard right before you gun it again. It's really bad for your tranny to be doing it in day to day town and traffic. Now I understand why you kids are only getting 30k out of your clutches. lol!!!!!!
How is Heel and Toe hard on the tranny or clutch? Rev-matching (which is the point of Heel and Toe) if done properly will minimize clutch wear, not increase it. Unless Heel and Toe is consistantly performed incorrectly it is not bad for your transmission or clutch. Please provide us with some basis for your opinion, as I think you are completely wrong in this matter.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
It shouldn't be done on the street unless you are pushing it hard and are breaking hard right before you gun it again. It's really bad for your tranny to be doing it in day to day town and traffic. Now I understand why you kids are only getting 30k out of your clutches. lol!!!!!!
LOL... haven't been called a kid in a loooong time.
But if you know how to double clutch & rev match.... you are in fact saving your clutch & tranny.
You don't have to be hard ballin to H&T.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hayaku
How is Heel and Toe hard on the tranny or clutch? Rev-matching (which is the point of Heel and Toe) if done properly will minimize clutch wear, not increase it. Unless Heel and Toe is consistantly performed incorrectly it is not bad for your transmission or clutch. Please provide us with some basis for your opinion, as I think you are completely wrong in this matter.
^+1...
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
It shouldn't be done on the street unless you are pushing it hard and are breaking hard right before you gun it again. It's really bad for your tranny to be doing it in day to day town and traffic. Now I understand why you kids are only getting 30k out of your clutches. lol!!!!!!
How is it bad for the tranny? It is actually less strain on all components if done correctly. Which parts are, in your opinion, being abused or overly worn by heal/toe rev-match downshifting?

***Edit** oops someone else beat me to my point
 
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