infiniti high performance line?
#32
That thing wasn't a turd and was considered a Sports car back then.
http://www.users.wiredcity.com.au/~c...ss/history.htm
Now I see the history of the SSS badge.
http://www.users.wiredcity.com.au/~c...ss/history.htm
Now I see the history of the SSS badge.
#33
The SSS lineage goes back much further than what's on that link
Um the A12 motor had like a whooping 60hp and was straddled with Japanese stylists still in it's infancy. Not european designed like the 510 and 240. The L series that powered the 510/610 and the early Zs were far superior than the B210 engines.
Um the A12 motor had like a whooping 60hp and was straddled with Japanese stylists still in it's infancy. Not european designed like the 510 and 240. The L series that powered the 510/610 and the early Zs were far superior than the B210 engines.
#34
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The SSS lineage goes back much further than what's on that link
Um the A12 motor had like a whooping 60hp and was straddled with Japanese stylists still in it's infancy. Not european designed like the 510 and 240. The L series that powered the 510/610 and the early Zs were far superior than the B210 engines.
Um the A12 motor had like a whooping 60hp and was straddled with Japanese stylists still in it's infancy. Not european designed like the 510 and 240. The L series that powered the 510/610 and the early Zs were far superior than the B210 engines.
The 610, the successor to the 510, hit the US market in '73. The 610, a Bluebird 1800 in other markets, had a 1.8 liter L series engine and an Independent Rear Suspension(irs) like the 510. 1973 was also the year of the first oil crisis, sparked by Israel's victory in the Yom Kippur War. Opec started an oil embargo and gas prices went through the roof. Katayama and Nissan USA had just launched its "Datsun Classics" ad campaign. The campaign featured a series of picture ads created by major artists, like Salvador Dali. They scrapped the campaign and started the "Datsun Saves" campaign, based on the earlier success of the 1200 in US government fuel economy tests. They filmed a 1200, a car due to be replaced that year with the B210, driving from California to Maine, making all sorts of Americana type pit stops. The new campaign was a huge success.
B210
The 260z replaced the 240z in 1974, and brought a new 2.6 liter engine along. A 2+2 (2 front plus 2 rear seats) version was introduced in May. The 610 continued, now with the L20B engine, leaving the L18 to the new 710 Violet in the US. The 710 was available in wagon, sedan and 2 door hardtop versions. Like the 610, it featured all sorts of luxury accessories and was aimed at a higher-class consumer. For those on a budget, the 1200 was replaced with the B210, a 1.4 liter car with sedan or hatchback models. Datsun sold an incredible amount of 210's.
The 260z was phased out in the US in mid 1975 and replaced by the 280z. Something else was phased out in 1975: Yutaka Katayama.
Katayama was a perfect example of the American auto entrepreneur. In his 15 years there, He did everything necessary to make Nissan a success in the US. He made friends with the dealers, showed up at all sorts of public events, entertained all the right people. He put Nissan on the map, and them kept it there with innovative marketing. He made changes to cars to make them acceptable to the US buyer, and made constant calls to Tokyo to ask for a better automobile or a new modification. He had been bold, he had been extravagant, and he had made a big splash with the American automobile press. In short, he had been everything that was needed to succeed in America, and at the same time been far too noticeable for his conservative colleagues in Japan. Even worse, he basically ignored the intense politics of Nissan Japan, and in the end all these things probably cost him his job. Early in 1975, he received a telegram to return to Tokyo. He got there, was given a gold watch and farmed out to a Nissan subsidiary. In 1982 Car and Driver published an article entitled "where have you gone Yutaka Katayama?" in which they lamented the vanishing of the most visionary Japanese businessman they had ever known, and at the same time, slagged Nissan for its new ordinary product. Car and Driver's praise was borne out a few years ago when Yutaka Katayama was given a place in the American Automobile Hall of fame, amongst the likes of Henry Ford, the Dodge brothers, Chrysler, and others.
Mr. K and Parnelli Jones
Katayama's replacement was Hiroshi Majima, who would oversee Nissan USA until 1980. Soichi Kawasoe, Katayama's Eastern counterpart from 1960-65, then overall Nissan-USA vice-president, retired in 1976. The "Engineer" and "Mr. K" were both now gone, and US Datsun product began to reflect it.
Hiroshi Majima Nissan USA President 1975-1980
The B210, 610, and 710 continued pretty much unchanged through to 1977 when the 610 was dropped in favor of the new 810. The F10 front wheel drive arrived in the states in 76, followed by the new 77 200sx(the new Silvia which had been in production in Japan since Sept 75).
#35
The related Sunny Excellents continued as PB210 models, fitted with a 1.4-litre L14 engine. In 1976 Nissan changed the Sunny Excellent from a distinct vehicle model (PB210) to simply a trim-level option for the regular B210, now fitted with 1.6-liter L16 engine.[6]
1978 that the L16 engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_B210#B210_series
Like I said, it was a quick car and has a racing heritage behind it as well like the 510.
1978 that the L16 engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_B210#B210_series
Like I said, it was a quick car and has a racing heritage behind it as well like the 510.
#36
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Nope. M3 shares way more parts and model reconigntion than the GTR will with the G coupe. The GTR isn't related to the G coupe anymore than any other Nissan/Infiniti that uses the FM platform.
#38
LOL. You are mixing up the chassis series vs the model. ie.. the early (father of the 510 was the Datsun 1200. B110 SERIES. Not model LOL
Originally Posted by G35_TX
The related Sunny Excellents continued as PB210 models, fitted with a 1.4-litre L14 engine. In 1976 Nissan changed the Sunny Excellent from a distinct vehicle model (PB210) to simply a trim-level option for the regular B210, now fitted with 1.6-liter L16 engine.[6]
1978 that the L16 engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_B210#B210_series
Like I said, it was a quick car and has a racing heritage behind it as well like the 510.
1978 that the L16 engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_B210#B210_series
Like I said, it was a quick car and has a racing heritage behind it as well like the 510.
#40
Ummm it did not have a 1.4L in that car. There are other sites out there that show it have the L16. I can probably ask my father what the car had in it since I know he worked on it a lot.
Also here is more proof that it had the L16.
http://datsun1200.com/modules/nsecti...ticle&artid=54
Sunny Excellent 1600
Oddly, for 1976-1977 Nissan changed the Sunny Excellent from a distinct vehicle model (PB210) to simply a trim-level option for the regular B210.
This year had L16 engine and H165 differentials. The engine is a L16S, meaning Single-carb L16. A Twin-carb option was not offered.
1600 GL 4-dr sedan (GB211GT w/F4W63 4-speed & GB211GA w/3N71B automatic & GB211GF w/FS5W63A 5-speed 1600 GX (GB211JT w/F4W63 & GB211JF w/FS5W63A). Also came in Coupe form (K) with same trim/transmission choices
Also here is more proof that it had the L16.
http://datsun1200.com/modules/nsecti...ticle&artid=54
Sunny Excellent 1600
Oddly, for 1976-1977 Nissan changed the Sunny Excellent from a distinct vehicle model (PB210) to simply a trim-level option for the regular B210.
This year had L16 engine and H165 differentials. The engine is a L16S, meaning Single-carb L16. A Twin-carb option was not offered.
1600 GL 4-dr sedan (GB211GT w/F4W63 4-speed & GB211GA w/3N71B automatic & GB211GF w/FS5W63A 5-speed 1600 GX (GB211JT w/F4W63 & GB211JF w/FS5W63A). Also came in Coupe form (K) with same trim/transmission choices
#42
Hard to say since I see a lot of mixed info on the net. I will still will ask my father though.
Found this:
B210 - May 1973
The third generation Datsun Sunny feature all new styling, more in keeping with the 610 and 710 models and was distinctly Japanese looking. Initially there was little different from the B110 underneath as the suspension and drive train were the same... even the 12" wheels were carried over. The body and interior, however were all new. The B210 was also available as two and four door sedans, a coupe, a wagon and panel van. There was also a three door wagon in some markets. The stock bodied B210 used A series engines, initially of 1200cc then later of 1400cc. American B210's also came with the A13 engine. As with all Nissan the range of models was huge in Japan. Outside of Japan the B210 was more commonly known as a 120Y. In 1975 the B210 underwent a revamp during which the front suspension was changed, 13" rims were fitted and the later type A12 used. As with the previous Sunny there was an L series version (see below).
PB210 - May 1973
The Datsun Sunny Excellent continued on in the B210 body, again with L series engines although this time an L16 was also used. The Excellent models featured a more pointed front end and different grille and bumper assembly. The coupe had triple round tail lights fitted in a new panel. The Excellent models appear to have only been available as a four door sedan or coupe and came out at the same time as the A series version of the B210.
Found this:
B210 - May 1973
The third generation Datsun Sunny feature all new styling, more in keeping with the 610 and 710 models and was distinctly Japanese looking. Initially there was little different from the B110 underneath as the suspension and drive train were the same... even the 12" wheels were carried over. The body and interior, however were all new. The B210 was also available as two and four door sedans, a coupe, a wagon and panel van. There was also a three door wagon in some markets. The stock bodied B210 used A series engines, initially of 1200cc then later of 1400cc. American B210's also came with the A13 engine. As with all Nissan the range of models was huge in Japan. Outside of Japan the B210 was more commonly known as a 120Y. In 1975 the B210 underwent a revamp during which the front suspension was changed, 13" rims were fitted and the later type A12 used. As with the previous Sunny there was an L series version (see below).
PB210 - May 1973
The Datsun Sunny Excellent continued on in the B210 body, again with L series engines although this time an L16 was also used. The Excellent models featured a more pointed front end and different grille and bumper assembly. The coupe had triple round tail lights fitted in a new panel. The Excellent models appear to have only been available as a four door sedan or coupe and came out at the same time as the A series version of the B210.
#44
Originally Posted by chilibowl
They should come out with an 'R' line
G35R
M45R
I think that sounds good
G35R
M45R
I think that sounds good
The rest of the worlds G35 as you know is a skyline 350gt, Nissan has always started their skyline ranges ( 32, 33, 34 ) with a gt & a gts range which was then followed by a gt R model in each case, so nothing has changed with bringing out the new GTR. Tell me does the new gt R look more like the R34 or more like the 350 gt.
Heres the answer 6 mins 15 seconds into this clip and look whats running with the new gtr so dont tell me the G35 over there and the new gtr are not linked.
#45
Yep...Lexus will be offering a performance line. F which = Fast. Sound so lame but thats what it is. L Tuned was more of a luxury/sport look than performance. Kinda like Acura and their A-Spec. The F line will have some real performance to it. Kinda like Acura and their S-Type.
It'll be:
IS-F
GS-F
and IF so on and so on...
They're gonna use a redesign version of their hybrid engines or something.
Infiniti is behind the times and should have something of their own. We'll just have to hope and wait. I highly doubt the R, its been used over and over already.
It'll be:
IS-F
GS-F
and IF so on and so on...
They're gonna use a redesign version of their hybrid engines or something.
Infiniti is behind the times and should have something of their own. We'll just have to hope and wait. I highly doubt the R, its been used over and over already.