It's sort of ironic. While you guys drool over RB26DETT swaps
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um do you even understand rotary engines? Exactly how does one over rev their engines (any engine) when it comes with rev limiters from the factory??? You mean to tell me the hundreds of blown turbo rotaries are from guys doing 5th to 2nd gear shifts??? I think no.
Rotaries are fragile beasts when turbo'd. Where do you think all these FD chassis for LS swaps come from?
Rotaries are fragile beasts when turbo'd. Where do you think all these FD chassis for LS swaps come from?
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I think YOU need to go do your research. Nobody said the LS1 is LIGHTER than the 13B, however, the weigh distribution is even better with the swap then before because more of the weight is further back on the LS1. The LS1 swap is 50-75 lbs heavier than a 13B Rotary.
Find me a 400hp VQ35 N/A like the LS2 has "same power as the LS V8"'s my ***.
Someone isn't going to swap in a brand new LS2 for starters. That would be stupid and pretty cost ineffective. They would probably start with teh old slowmarrow and firebird engines, which only produce 315 hp, not much more than our cars. And if the recent rumors are true of the new 3.7 liter VQ to be in the new G35, this just completely solidifies my sentiment on the matter. The weight distribution is already perfect for the RX-7. One of the reasons for it handling so well. I just don't agree.
Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
I think YOU need to go do your research. Nobody said the LS1 is LIGHTER than the 13B, however, the weigh distribution is even better with the swap then before because more of the weight is further back on the LS1. The LS1 swap is 50-75 lbs heavier than a 13B Rotary.
Find me a 400hp VQ35 N/A like the LS2 has "same power as the LS V8"'s my ***.
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From: ɐʍ 'ǝlʇʇɐǝs
Actually, I don't see a great amount of broken NA rotaries. Just incorrectly boosted ones. Which leads me to believe the failures are owner modding mistakes + the fact that rotaries on boost are very fragile. Not to revs but to lean detonation. Pinging kills the apex seals.
Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
over reving is exactly how tons of guys have blow them. It doesn't matter what gear they are in. You said it yourself, the rotary engine is pretty fragile, and most of the recent ones are turbo ones because they produce very little power without one. When you use a different engine management system and change the shift points, and remove the rev limiters, which most of us don't even think about it because we are NA, it is very easy to damage if not blow the motor if you aren't careful.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Actually, I don't see a great amount of broken NA rotaries. Just incorrectly boosted ones. Which leads me to believe the failures are owner modding mistakes + the fact that rotaries on boost are very fragile. Not to revs but to lean detonation. Pinging kills the apex seals.
Remember the Aussies get these cars fairly cheap and have abundant supply of RB series engines. 
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From: ɐʍ 'ǝlʇʇɐǝs
Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
6. If you have enough money to do this swap, which is very expensive, then you shouldn't do it, you should just wait for the GT-R
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There is no way a V8 is lighter than the 13B motor.
Also there is no way a aluminum V8, which you were bragging about is going to be lighter than our engine which is also all aluminum,
and doubtful the v8 will be lighter than the RB motor which is both iron and aluminum.
The first swaps for the RX-7 motor were the RB and the 2JZ motors. Probably because american V8's are all over the place and cheap, those have become more commonly swapped instead of the RB or 2JZ.
Do you research buddy. If you want 1000 hp or even 800 hp out of a twin turbo american V8 you have to drop the compression
Never said it wouldn't. So?
A 500 hp VQ engine is going to be of course way easier to handle than a 1000 hp twin turbo V8. Think buddy
Easier to handle or easier to maintain?? You still have to build a 500hp boosted VQ engine. Exactly on what technical basis you saying this. There is a guy that drives a boosted Impala putting out 1,000. Guess what? He picks up his daughter from school every day in it. Technology and cubic inches is a wonderfull thing.
I'm not going to argue what V8's are the best. Frankly, they wouldn't be american, they would be German, or Italian probably. it's pretty funny though that the VQ makes almost if not the exact same power as you LT and LS V8's. Strikes me as poor engineering on the American side.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
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Easier to handle or easier to maintain?? You still have to build a 500hp boosted VQ engine. Exactly on what technical basis you saying this. There is a guy that drives a boosted Impala putting out 1,000. Guess what? He picks up his daughter from school every day in it. Technology and cubic inches is a wonderfull thing.
Uh you mean the brand NEW VH35 that puts out 300hp puts out 50hp LESS than the LS1 that came out in what? 1998?? Whoop de doo doo. The new generation of LS engines are putting out closer to 450hp.
Easier to handle or easier to maintain?? You still have to build a 500hp boosted VQ engine. Exactly on what technical basis you saying this. There is a guy that drives a boosted Impala putting out 1,000. Guess what? He picks up his daughter from school every day in it. Technology and cubic inches is a wonderfull thing.
Uh you mean the brand NEW VH35 that puts out 300hp puts out 50hp LESS than the LS1 that came out in what? 1998?? Whoop de doo doo. The new generation of LS engines are putting out closer to 450hp.
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Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
Okay, yeah you can still drive a 1000 hp car around if you drive like a girl. But try pushing it on an open road with that car.....wouldn't be pretty. Of course you'd have to rebuild the VQ, but you wouldn't have to find a new motor to begin with.
No I am talking about the speculated 3.7 350 hp new VQ. Do a search, it has been talked about on this site.
No i'm not comparing the VQ to a corvette engine, I was really thinking about a LT1's I guess, which are going to be cheaper and more accessible to a person looking to swap engines. You wouldn't swap a brand new corvette engine into any car and then twin turbo it!!! And if you did, you should be driving something a lot better than a G35. If the new engine is pulling out 450 hp, then it's where it should be. The Japense could do much better and they will in the future now that the gentleman's agreement that kept the bhp numbers down is now nulled. I think we have gone off on a tangent here, so I'm done. You have you views and I have mine.
People do what they want. It's what makes this stuff interesting. You seem to forget that the Skyline down in Aussie land are cheap and available. I don't know how much more is available with the TT aluminum VQ engine. It's not nearly as overbuilt like the RB and 2JZ motors were.
Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
They would probably start with teh old slowmarrow and firebird engines, which only produce 315 hp, not much more than our cars.
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Originally Posted by Obsidian G35
They might be rated at 305-310hp, but the difference is they actually put down anywhere from 285-300rwhp. Unlike our "298hp" motors that only put out 220-240rwhp if you're lucky
Originally Posted by b00stedjustin
wrong!!! My first car was a 96 trans am. You're way off there. My G35 feels faster when it comes down to it.
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