Just finished Day1 of 6MT... not so smooth.. help?
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Just finished Day1 of 6MT... not so smooth.. help?
okay, so i went to get my car yesterday and it was great.. really excited, but then i was also extremely nervous because i havent gotten behind a manual in years, and even then, it was for a short lesson.. so in a sense, i know the basics, but no experience..
i cant get my first to 2nd gear to shift smoothly.. it jumps when i release the clutch
i need tips on what rpm is best for me to shift into 2nd, and like if i need to feed it a tiny bit of gas, moderate before letting go of the clutch..
also, i dont think my clutch is supposed to make clanking noises when i shift in and out of a gear (only somtimes)... is it?
i cant get my first to 2nd gear to shift smoothly.. it jumps when i release the clutch
i need tips on what rpm is best for me to shift into 2nd, and like if i need to feed it a tiny bit of gas, moderate before letting go of the clutch..
also, i dont think my clutch is supposed to make clanking noises when i shift in and out of a gear (only somtimes)... is it?
Last edited by vtb11; Jun 17, 2007 at 10:18 PM.
1. congrats on the 6mt. once u get a hang of it u'll love it.
2. try and release it slightly slower and a little bit more smoother. dont take too long though. it takes a little practice to smooth it out.
3. u can shift at any rpm as long as u smooth it out. the 1st to 2nd is a real pain as u can see. but for normal driving, i try and keep it between 2-3k. i tend to do it at around 2500 give or take and let it drop to about 2k by the time my shift is complete.
4. our cars are noisy so u'll hear it alot. i hear Z/G's clankin all over the place. if u sit with ur car off and move through the gears, u'll hear the noises easily.
2. try and release it slightly slower and a little bit more smoother. dont take too long though. it takes a little practice to smooth it out.
3. u can shift at any rpm as long as u smooth it out. the 1st to 2nd is a real pain as u can see. but for normal driving, i try and keep it between 2-3k. i tend to do it at around 2500 give or take and let it drop to about 2k by the time my shift is complete.
4. our cars are noisy so u'll hear it alot. i hear Z/G's clankin all over the place. if u sit with ur car off and move through the gears, u'll hear the noises easily.
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Originally Posted by BlackWindEXE
1. congrats on the 6mt. once u get a hang of it u'll love it.
2. try and release it slightly slower and a little bit more smoother. dont take too long though. it takes a little practice to smooth it out.
3. u can shift at any rpm as long as u smooth it out. the 1st to 2nd is a real pain as u can see. but for normal driving, i try and keep it between 2-3k. i tend to do it at around 2500 give or take and let it drop to about 2k by the time my shift is complete.
4. our cars are noisy so u'll hear it alot. i hear Z/G's clankin all over the place. if u sit with ur car off and move through the gears, u'll hear the noises easily.
2. try and release it slightly slower and a little bit more smoother. dont take too long though. it takes a little practice to smooth it out.
3. u can shift at any rpm as long as u smooth it out. the 1st to 2nd is a real pain as u can see. but for normal driving, i try and keep it between 2-3k. i tend to do it at around 2500 give or take and let it drop to about 2k by the time my shift is complete.
4. our cars are noisy so u'll hear it alot. i hear Z/G's clankin all over the place. if u sit with ur car off and move through the gears, u'll hear the noises easily.
yeah i'm in the same situation... haven't drove in years... but i'm planning to get a 6MT... thought i would try to find an older car first... but i'm just gonna give it a try and see what happens... congrats on the new buy... we have something in common! Good luck!
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why is that bad?
Also is it bad to force the gear into neutral? ie. no clutch just push gear in neutral? if so why.
my friend who has a 350z is helping me perfect manual. Man is it embaressing when you're in the front of an intersection and let the clutch in too fast so the car bobs up and down then engine dies. haha.
Also is it bad to force the gear into neutral? ie. no clutch just push gear in neutral? if so why.
my friend who has a 350z is helping me perfect manual. Man is it embaressing when you're in the front of an intersection and let the clutch in too fast so the car bobs up and down then engine dies. haha.
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Originally Posted by Spiike
why is that bad?
Also is it bad to force the gear into neutral? ie. no clutch just push gear in neutral? if so why.
my friend who has a 350z is helping me perfect manual. Man is it embaressing when you're in the front of an intersection and let the clutch in too fast so the car bobs up and down then engine dies. haha.
Also is it bad to force the gear into neutral? ie. no clutch just push gear in neutral? if so why.
my friend who has a 350z is helping me perfect manual. Man is it embaressing when you're in the front of an intersection and let the clutch in too fast so the car bobs up and down then engine dies. haha.
I've also found this to help a bit:
Right before taking it out of gear to upshift, roll into the throttle just a bit more, then proceed with your shift. I think it tends to give just enough cushion in rev-drop to smooth things out. You'll also find that the car prefers a certain shifting speed to be smooth... ...which relates to the drop in revs during the shift. While it will perform when rushed, a slower shift seems required for smooth cruising.
Practicing without the A/C on can help, but then you really have to alter the process when the A/C is on, so take your pick.
Right before taking it out of gear to upshift, roll into the throttle just a bit more, then proceed with your shift. I think it tends to give just enough cushion in rev-drop to smooth things out. You'll also find that the car prefers a certain shifting speed to be smooth... ...which relates to the drop in revs during the shift. While it will perform when rushed, a slower shift seems required for smooth cruising.
Practicing without the A/C on can help, but then you really have to alter the process when the A/C is on, so take your pick.
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Originally Posted by GT-Ron
I've also found this to help a bit:
Right before taking it out of gear to upshift, roll into the throttle just a bit more, then proceed with your shift. I think it tends to give just enough cushion in rev-drop to smooth things out. You'll also find that the car prefers a certain shifting speed to be smooth... ...which relates to the drop in revs during the shift. While it will perform when rushed, a slower shift seems required for smooth cruising.
Practicing without the A/C on can help, but then you really have to alter the process when the A/C is on, so take your pick.
Right before taking it out of gear to upshift, roll into the throttle just a bit more, then proceed with your shift. I think it tends to give just enough cushion in rev-drop to smooth things out. You'll also find that the car prefers a certain shifting speed to be smooth... ...which relates to the drop in revs during the shift. While it will perform when rushed, a slower shift seems required for smooth cruising.
Practicing without the A/C on can help, but then you really have to alter the process when the A/C is on, so take your pick.
cool, ill give that a try.. thanks! im going to adjust the clutch as posted in the DIY, hopefully thatll ease my learning process as well
Also, I don't think it can be stressed enough that you should really play with your seating position. Small adjustments from your normal seating position can make a huge difference in helping you smoothly transition to and through the clutch-engagement point. I sit closer and a little more upright than I might normally, and I've never been big on the gangster-lean to begin with.
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I have a 2005 6MT.I have over 20 yrs of shifting experience.
I suggest not below 3000RPM before shifting to 2nd.Otherwise, the car will jerk.
It takes over 10K miles before the manual gets to be smooth. So , be patient.Practice mor will get you into a shifting machine. I still think auto is the way to go if you want perfect shifting. Manual is not neccessarily faster.
I suggest not below 3000RPM before shifting to 2nd.Otherwise, the car will jerk.
It takes over 10K miles before the manual gets to be smooth. So , be patient.Practice mor will get you into a shifting machine. I still think auto is the way to go if you want perfect shifting. Manual is not neccessarily faster.
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Originally Posted by watsgoodG
it just takes practice i think its easier to shift at 7,000 rpm then it is at 4,000.
i always thought high-rpms wear out the gears more so than shifting at lower rpms ~3k vs high 3k/4k
on that note... is it better to coast in 4th at like 3k+ rpms or 5th at under 3k rpms?