Oil Consumption TSB
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Oil Consumption TSB
A TSB has finally been issued to address the oil consumption issue.
Right now it's only for Nissan but there should be one for Infiniti soon
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232332
Right now it's only for Nissan but there should be one for Infiniti soon
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232332
Originally Posted by ZU L8R
Taken out of the big oil onsumption thread so it's more visible for everyone.
Nissan releases TSB NTB07-088: 2005- 2006 350Z: Engine Oil Level Is Low
Released: 11/27/07
Applied Vehicles: 2006 350Z (Z33) with M/T: 2005 350Z (Z33) Track and 35th Anniversary Edition with M/T
Good news for oil consuming engines, after 2 years of fighting with the dealer and NNA. NNA finally released a Technical Service Bulletin that will now take only a visit to the dealer to record an oil fill (top off) plus one more visit maybe two, for a look up on the Oil Consumption Chart to determine if the engine is to be replaced at the dealer level. In the past their was this long agonizing painful process of arguing with the dealer and NNA to accept responsibility of a mechanical defect in the engine, that 1 qt per 1k mi was unacceptable. Today the dealers have a guidelines set forth for all dealers to comply with, not to mention we now have the same chart.
Basically the TSB is if the engine is consuming more than 2mm below the top of the “H” crosshatch mark within 0-500 miles from an dealer recorded” check and refill oil level”, or an “oil and filter change”, the engine will be replaced (may need two recordings) with the V2 part # 10102-AC7MZ. No more hassles, no more ignorant dealers saying “It’s normal to consume 1 qt per every 3k mi oil intervals”.
Ok, now in layman terms:
Oil level is >1/8 qt (3mm) low, car has 2k mi on current oil change.
Have dealer confirm the reading and document on your file, dealer tops off oil and tells you to come back in 1k mi.
500 mi later you check it and its >1/8 qt low, take it to dealer to confirm reading and your engine will be replaced. It’s that simple.
Congrats to everyone waiting in the wings hoping their OC will reach what used to be the standard 1qt per 1ki miles for an engine replacement, can now line up Monday morning at their dealer with this TSB in hand and get an engine replaced.
Good News for All !
Nissan releases TSB NTB07-088: 2005- 2006 350Z: Engine Oil Level Is Low
Released: 11/27/07
Applied Vehicles: 2006 350Z (Z33) with M/T: 2005 350Z (Z33) Track and 35th Anniversary Edition with M/T
Good news for oil consuming engines, after 2 years of fighting with the dealer and NNA. NNA finally released a Technical Service Bulletin that will now take only a visit to the dealer to record an oil fill (top off) plus one more visit maybe two, for a look up on the Oil Consumption Chart to determine if the engine is to be replaced at the dealer level. In the past their was this long agonizing painful process of arguing with the dealer and NNA to accept responsibility of a mechanical defect in the engine, that 1 qt per 1k mi was unacceptable. Today the dealers have a guidelines set forth for all dealers to comply with, not to mention we now have the same chart.
Basically the TSB is if the engine is consuming more than 2mm below the top of the “H” crosshatch mark within 0-500 miles from an dealer recorded” check and refill oil level”, or an “oil and filter change”, the engine will be replaced (may need two recordings) with the V2 part # 10102-AC7MZ. No more hassles, no more ignorant dealers saying “It’s normal to consume 1 qt per every 3k mi oil intervals”.
Ok, now in layman terms:
Oil level is >1/8 qt (3mm) low, car has 2k mi on current oil change.
Have dealer confirm the reading and document on your file, dealer tops off oil and tells you to come back in 1k mi.
500 mi later you check it and its >1/8 qt low, take it to dealer to confirm reading and your engine will be replaced. It’s that simple.
Congrats to everyone waiting in the wings hoping their OC will reach what used to be the standard 1qt per 1ki miles for an engine replacement, can now line up Monday morning at their dealer with this TSB in hand and get an engine replaced.
Good News for All !
Last edited by Glex25; Dec 7, 2007 at 11:56 AM.
i'm new to this whole consumption rate but i'm assuming 1/2 qt is normal after 4,500 miles (running synthetic), right? just had my last oil change this weekend and the invoice stated 1/2 qt low. i'm assuming 1/2 qt is not going to do any extensive damage but i'll keep a closer eye ever couple of weeks.
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I go through .5 QTS every 1k so that is 1.5QTS between oil changes.
I had always complained but that fell on deaf ears and stated to be normal operation.
At least now there will be officially something in the books instead of dealers just pushing us and finding any excuse not to service our cars.
I had always complained but that fell on deaf ears and stated to be normal operation.
At least now there will be officially something in the books instead of dealers just pushing us and finding any excuse not to service our cars.
Last edited by Glex25; Dec 5, 2007 at 09:41 PM.
Originally Posted by Bigd2k6
i'm new to this whole consumption rate but i'm assuming 1/2 qt is normal after 4,500 miles (running synthetic), right? just had my last oil change this weekend and the invoice stated 1/2 qt low. i'm assuming 1/2 qt is not going to do any extensive damage but i'll keep a closer eye ever couple of weeks.
Originally Posted by Glex25
I go through .5 QTS every 1k so that is 1.5QTS between oil changes.
I had always complained but that fell on deaf ears and stated to be normal operation.
At least now there will be officially something in the books instead of dealers just pushing us and finding any excuse not to service our cars.
I had always complained but that fell on deaf ears and stated to be normal operation.
At least now there will be officially something in the books instead of dealers just pushing us and finding any excuse not to service our cars.
Last edited by Vblick; Dec 12, 2007 at 07:56 AM.
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I didn't see it in your sig, but can you share the year G you have?
Originally Posted by Texasscout
I would say that's just a bit high, but acceptable. Mine uses about 4oz in 7200 miles.
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I'm thinking of having the oil changed like normal, (they always record the miles) then just driving it for the 3,700 miles like a normal car, letting it cease up from no oil after say...2,000 miles and then they have to replace the engine! You notice it says "if engine makes noise replace, if no noise top off oil and return to customer". Well if it dies they have to replace it! I only have 16,000 miles and have put more oil in this damn car than our 68 GTO has gone through in the past 5 years. They better get a bulletin our for our G's pretty soon.
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Originally Posted by Vblick
In the pic with the rule on the dipstick, how many mm are there from the high reading to the low? I'm not sure where the low marker ends, 24mm?
Originally Posted by G-Ticket
You notice it says "if engine makes noise replace, if no noise top off oil and return to customer". Well if it dies they have to replace it!
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Keep reading. After they top you off, they want you to return after 1000-3750 miles and measure dip stick again for consumption in mm.
If you fall in the 'no good' range, they order a new VQ. If it makes noise, it's a given...VQ is trashed and gone.
Read in another OC thread that we should be getting OUR TSB sometime in Feb 08, but you know how public forums can be...we shall see.
My VQ has been in the 'no good' range on Nissan's 350Z TSB graph for 2yrs now.
I give Infiniti until end of Feb 08 to release theirs, otherwise I'm going BBB and FTD route with 350Z's TSB in hand.
Already have gone the NHTSA route and created this thread about that:
https://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/188688-owners-vq-oil-consumption.html
There's no reason our VQ's should be excluded from this with Nissan's recent official acknowledgment of the rev-up VQ OC issue for the Z's.
Ours is the same VQ with the exact same issues
HEY NISSAN NORTH AMERICA...YOU MAKE INFINITI'S TOO...
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I hope Feb. is when they issue it. I have planned on taking the car back to the dealer in Feb. to have some little warranty issues taken care of and to start the consumption testing. I just have to plan on driving 200 miles (round trip) to get it done. I really wish we had an Infiniti dealer closer, but oh well. I just get frustrated having to pay such close attention to how many miles I drive so I can add more oil. We all paid way too much for this car to have to deal with this. I love my car and really hope they get it taken care of. Problems can occur in any car I feel and get the feeling from everyone on here that it's not the problem itself that is frustrating as much as the handling of it. Lets hope with the new year comes a TSB and new engines for us all!
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