Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
Went to Cerritos Inifinti and it was a wonderful experience. The salesperson was very helpful and was not pushy at all. To begin with, I love this car. This car has been on my mind since it was first debuted over a year ago. And the truth is this is my realistic dream machine. I was tembling with excitement as the salesperson handed me the keys. I started the car and the melodious exhaust roared to life.
After the drive I realized the car was not as fast as I had expected (this is not intended to be a flame). I thought I would experience head snapping acceleration with the 270 pounds of torque or a quick climb of the rpms when I flooded the excelerator but it never happened. Dont get me wrong, its a fast car...but 2nd gear acceleration was just not that impressive for a 280hp vehicle. It reminded me of the Automobile Mag test specs showing acceleration of .55 g's. I thought when I first read the mag that it must been a mistake, because the acura rsx-s had the same recorded g's. It was also half of what the STI pulls in (.98g). This was not what I expected from a big V6. I really dont think this car is a 13sec 1/2 car at all now. I have to agree with the 14.6 specs that some magazines recorded. the auto must feel even slower.
Anyhow, I was ready to buy the car today, but after the test drive it just left me with a craving for more. state of confusion almost. This was totally unexpected. idunno...maybe if it didnt have the heavier 18in rims...or the 3400+ pound weight...it would help. I still love the car...but I understand now why the G35 lost to the S2000 in the best motoring video. I feel sad...maybe it was those rims...I might be over reacting but...sigh...idunno...I was ready to buy it today.
After the drive I realized the car was not as fast as I had expected (this is not intended to be a flame). I thought I would experience head snapping acceleration with the 270 pounds of torque or a quick climb of the rpms when I flooded the excelerator but it never happened. Dont get me wrong, its a fast car...but 2nd gear acceleration was just not that impressive for a 280hp vehicle. It reminded me of the Automobile Mag test specs showing acceleration of .55 g's. I thought when I first read the mag that it must been a mistake, because the acura rsx-s had the same recorded g's. It was also half of what the STI pulls in (.98g). This was not what I expected from a big V6. I really dont think this car is a 13sec 1/2 car at all now. I have to agree with the 14.6 specs that some magazines recorded. the auto must feel even slower.
Anyhow, I was ready to buy the car today, but after the test drive it just left me with a craving for more. state of confusion almost. This was totally unexpected. idunno...maybe if it didnt have the heavier 18in rims...or the 3400+ pound weight...it would help. I still love the car...but I understand now why the G35 lost to the S2000 in the best motoring video. I feel sad...maybe it was those rims...I might be over reacting but...sigh...idunno...I was ready to buy it today.
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
For one thing. The gcoupe has never ran a 13.5sec 1/4 mile stock. That would be very close to M3 status. Second, I don't know what to tell you if you can't feel the torque. I eat rsx's off the line. We have like double their torque.. I don't know what speed exactly you're comparing the car to, but the only faster alternatives would be the m3, sti, or evo.
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Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
you cant expect for feel the cars power b4 it even breaks in.cant always rely on the butt dyno because many ppl have posted low 14s at the track. my friend from san antonio even hit 13.9 in his stock 6speed G35.i've beaten newer model mustang gts and one new accord v6 the other day.i have an auto by the way.
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It's really up to you if you decide other wise. I personally own both the G-coupe and a weekend S2000 sportster. Both are absolutely awesome cars in their own ways. Paid MSRP for the G-coupe and bought my pre-owned certified 2002 S2000 with 18K for $22k, oh ya. Currently owning both cars I do have to say that the S2000 does feel just a tad faster. The G-coupe is a perfect everyday driver, but the S2000 is pretty much a weekend toy because it is an all out "sports car", not alot of interior space and creature comforts as compare to the G-coupe. As much as I love my S2000, I would never pay MSRP for it because I think that for $33K I could have owned teh G-coupe because it just give much so much more. I'm just happy right now that I'm able to afford both cars right now. IMO, the looks goes to the G-coupe and the "formula 1 feel of a sports car goes to the S2000.
Peace and happy motoring.
Peace and happy motoring.
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
If straight line performance is your most important criteria, get a Sti or Evo. If feeling like you're going fast, but not really is your most import criteria, get a Mustang. If you want an all around performing car with a comfortable interior and a good price, get the G35c.
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
Hmmm I ran 14.3 bone stock in my 6MT Sedan. So obviosly you ran a junker.
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Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
You might have been disappointed because you went in with unrealistic expectations.
The G is a mid-to-high 5 sec 0-60 car. Sounds like you're looking for <5 sec. For me, having less power but a better all around package was more important than just acceleration. If all you're interested in is the "push" then get a forced induction car or spend the bucks...Evo, M3, etc. Or you can get a G and add FI later. Either way, there are going to be some trade-offs.
It's one of those "Cake vs. Eat it too" kinda scenarios...
The G is a mid-to-high 5 sec 0-60 car. Sounds like you're looking for <5 sec. For me, having less power but a better all around package was more important than just acceleration. If all you're interested in is the "push" then get a forced induction car or spend the bucks...Evo, M3, etc. Or you can get a G and add FI later. Either way, there are going to be some trade-offs.
It's one of those "Cake vs. Eat it too" kinda scenarios...
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You know for a second reading this post, and I repeat only for a second, I thought this may be a well thought out and realtively informative post, but the more I read, the more it just made me say - who is this guy?
Foremost, you praise the car, and how much you liked it, but then you go on to say "After the drive I realized the car was not as fast as I had expected".... With that in mind, if you dont mind me asking, what other car(s) have you gotten into, knowing its specs before hand, that made you say WOW this is a fast car? I would love to know how you based your judgement and I hope its not all from reading magazines, even though what the magazines have reported, for the most part (90%) is accurate about the G.
So I and I'm sure everyone else here is confused to hell with what you expected???
I owned a supercharged 95 M3 prior picking up my G35 Coupe. That thing was an animal! Cranking an excess of 350 ponies, fully track tuned, it tore up the streets quite well. Even with such a car in my hands for a few year, the G35 Coupe is still a fast machine in my eyes. It'll never match the pick up and go my M3 had, but for what it's got (and lets not forget the value), it's quick! The new M3 has what like 50 ponies over the G, but even with that gain, the G still gives it a good run for its money. You'll tail to the finish line, but not by much.
Lastly, you guys have to stop comparing the G35 Coupe to the S2000!

"See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a *****, but only enough blood to run one at a time."
Foremost, you praise the car, and how much you liked it, but then you go on to say "After the drive I realized the car was not as fast as I had expected".... With that in mind, if you dont mind me asking, what other car(s) have you gotten into, knowing its specs before hand, that made you say WOW this is a fast car? I would love to know how you based your judgement and I hope its not all from reading magazines, even though what the magazines have reported, for the most part (90%) is accurate about the G.
So I and I'm sure everyone else here is confused to hell with what you expected???
I owned a supercharged 95 M3 prior picking up my G35 Coupe. That thing was an animal! Cranking an excess of 350 ponies, fully track tuned, it tore up the streets quite well. Even with such a car in my hands for a few year, the G35 Coupe is still a fast machine in my eyes. It'll never match the pick up and go my M3 had, but for what it's got (and lets not forget the value), it's quick! The new M3 has what like 50 ponies over the G, but even with that gain, the G still gives it a good run for its money. You'll tail to the finish line, but not by much.
Lastly, you guys have to stop comparing the G35 Coupe to the S2000!

"See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a *****, but only enough blood to run one at a time."
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
The G is typical of a broad powerband car that is pretty heavy, we call it "sneaky fast" in my neck of the woods.
It is a shame that you need to feel your head jerk back to make you buy the "car of your dreams". Just add nitrous or a supercharger, don't let a silly thing like neck snapping acceleration keep you from buying the best car for the money out there today.
JD
2003.5 Coupe, Blk/Blk
It is a shame that you need to feel your head jerk back to make you buy the "car of your dreams". Just add nitrous or a supercharger, don't let a silly thing like neck snapping acceleration keep you from buying the best car for the money out there today.
JD
2003.5 Coupe, Blk/Blk
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I have to agree with my fellow posters.
1. What other vehicles are you comparing the "G" to?
2. What numbers do you expect in the 1/4 and 0-60?
I'll admit that I am not a speed freak when evaluating cars, but if you're telling me that you prefer a car that is 1 second faster in the quarter and 0-60, I would have to ask why? Do you make a living from racing fast stock cars? Do you just want bragging rights?
IMO, you'll have a difficult time getting the looks, value and performance at this price from another production vehicle period.
2004 Coupe/DG/Graph/5AT/Premium/CB/ and CG Baby!
1. What other vehicles are you comparing the "G" to?
2. What numbers do you expect in the 1/4 and 0-60?
I'll admit that I am not a speed freak when evaluating cars, but if you're telling me that you prefer a car that is 1 second faster in the quarter and 0-60, I would have to ask why? Do you make a living from racing fast stock cars? Do you just want bragging rights?
IMO, you'll have a difficult time getting the looks, value and performance at this price from another production vehicle period.
2004 Coupe/DG/Graph/5AT/Premium/CB/ and CG Baby!
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The G35 is an all around performance vehicle, and on the road (as opposed to from the stoplight in a straight line), it rapidly displays its characteristics as a "driver's car".
It is heavy relative to the S2K, the result of having a V6, two extra seats, and some luxury appointments. I ran with a bunch of the little Hondas at Laguna Seca a few weeks ago, and they are cute little buggers. But they are limited, and though it is not a fair comparison because of the mods I made to the G35 coupe....they could not keep up in the straights or the turns. Modified to the extent my car is, they would be a true track terror. And the STI with a few mods was really something to behold. So, it is not the perfect car. But it is for many, and still for me, one heck of a pleasant dream car. Take your time and check around. When you find something truly better.....I want to know.
Cpe 6MT/Aero/Prem/ATI/RT cats/Borla hdrs-catbcks/Nismo flywhl-cltch/TS-ECU/Tein flex EDFC/Stillen sways
It is heavy relative to the S2K, the result of having a V6, two extra seats, and some luxury appointments. I ran with a bunch of the little Hondas at Laguna Seca a few weeks ago, and they are cute little buggers. But they are limited, and though it is not a fair comparison because of the mods I made to the G35 coupe....they could not keep up in the straights or the turns. Modified to the extent my car is, they would be a true track terror. And the STI with a few mods was really something to behold. So, it is not the perfect car. But it is for many, and still for me, one heck of a pleasant dream car. Take your time and check around. When you find something truly better.....I want to know.
Cpe 6MT/Aero/Prem/ATI/RT cats/Borla hdrs-catbcks/Nismo flywhl-cltch/TS-ECU/Tein flex EDFC/Stillen sways
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I guess Im comparing it to my old S2000 and the RSX. because its a bit low on torque, you dont feel the push-into-the-seats acceleration. Thats why I was expecting to be pushed into the seats when I drove this car. Also comparing it to a turbo silvia which my friends says runs about the same as a G35. But that car really pulls you. Ya I know the G35 will eat the RSX off the line because of rear wheel drive and more power. No I dont race as a profession.
Actually the G35 was the only car I had in mind to get and it still is...and I dont really like the Z too much.
Actually the G35 was the only car I had in mind to get and it still is...and I dont really like the Z too much.
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
What happens with some people who get in the G35 is that they are swayed by the looks and hype around the car instead of appreciating it for what it is.
The VQ is not a VTEC technology engine (and that's a good thing IMO), nor is it a peaky engine at all - of any kind or technology. It has a broad and smooth power band - you get grunt down low and in the middle and it keeps going pretty high until finally tailing off very high in the rev counter.
Those who like a peaky engine that they can find a notch in to nail themselves in the seat are not going to like the G35 as much - and that's cool. But to put down the car for that lack of peakiness is simply besides the point. You want a notchy type of "character-laden" acceleration, don't buy the G35 - it is smooth and has an almost "on/off" approach to acceleration with its throttle - also somewhat a function of the drive-by-wire technology.
If you want to be nailed back in your seat - get a Cobra or an STi or an EVO - anything else is going to cost you WAY more than the G35. (M3's, S4, RS6, etc.,) The S2K is a great little sports car but it shouldn't be compared to a G - it's apples and oranges.
This argument reminds me a bit of people who think an I35 is a better car than the G35 because it rides smoother [img]/w3timages/icons/crazy.gif[/img] - hokay! That just means they don't understand what a G35 is all about and I think that's where Senspeed is failing - the G is not a rocket, it's a cruiser with quicks and style. I bought it because it is wonderful at being what it really is - a Grand Tourer and a fun car to drive for me. I don't need to be thrown back in my seat, but I do like the fact that I have power ANYWHERE in the RPM band which means I have real-world flexibility for passing, escaping dangerous situations, etc.,
If you understand what you want from a car and if you understand what a G35 is all about - then you'll know very quickly if it is the car for you.
- Riff
G35C BS/GR/PREM/PERF/NAV/AERO/XM
Chicago Region SCCA
Tri-State Sports Car Council
Soon to come ... Tein Shocks w/EDFC, Improved Sways and Enkei RPF01's! Also udder stuff too! [img]/w3timages/icons/cool.gif[/img]
The VQ is not a VTEC technology engine (and that's a good thing IMO), nor is it a peaky engine at all - of any kind or technology. It has a broad and smooth power band - you get grunt down low and in the middle and it keeps going pretty high until finally tailing off very high in the rev counter.
Those who like a peaky engine that they can find a notch in to nail themselves in the seat are not going to like the G35 as much - and that's cool. But to put down the car for that lack of peakiness is simply besides the point. You want a notchy type of "character-laden" acceleration, don't buy the G35 - it is smooth and has an almost "on/off" approach to acceleration with its throttle - also somewhat a function of the drive-by-wire technology.
If you want to be nailed back in your seat - get a Cobra or an STi or an EVO - anything else is going to cost you WAY more than the G35. (M3's, S4, RS6, etc.,) The S2K is a great little sports car but it shouldn't be compared to a G - it's apples and oranges.
This argument reminds me a bit of people who think an I35 is a better car than the G35 because it rides smoother [img]/w3timages/icons/crazy.gif[/img] - hokay! That just means they don't understand what a G35 is all about and I think that's where Senspeed is failing - the G is not a rocket, it's a cruiser with quicks and style. I bought it because it is wonderful at being what it really is - a Grand Tourer and a fun car to drive for me. I don't need to be thrown back in my seat, but I do like the fact that I have power ANYWHERE in the RPM band which means I have real-world flexibility for passing, escaping dangerous situations, etc.,
If you understand what you want from a car and if you understand what a G35 is all about - then you'll know very quickly if it is the car for you.
- Riff
G35C BS/GR/PREM/PERF/NAV/AERO/XM
Chicago Region SCCA
Tri-State Sports Car Council
Soon to come ... Tein Shocks w/EDFC, Improved Sways and Enkei RPF01's! Also udder stuff too! [img]/w3timages/icons/cool.gif[/img]
Re: Just test drove a 6mt coupe - disappointed
You can't compare a NA V6 like this car to a turbo anything. Turbos give not only torque, but useable torque. My S4 supposedly puts our 258 ft/lbs, which is less than the G35. However, because of the turbos it will throw you into the seats. NA engines will wind through the gears, almost effortlessly and you won't really know how fast you are going. The same is true for my coworker's S2000, and another's 330.
You compare this to an STI??? Numbers on paper don't mean anything. You can't compare hp to hp, torque to torque, when so many variables come into play.
Your expectations were way out of whack it seems. If you want a car to slam you into the seats, then don't consider a NA V6 Japanese car.
You compare this to an STI??? Numbers on paper don't mean anything. You can't compare hp to hp, torque to torque, when so many variables come into play.
Your expectations were way out of whack it seems. If you want a car to slam you into the seats, then don't consider a NA V6 Japanese car.



