so my friend just called me and told me that this girl's (he worked with) boyfriend just sold his s2000 to get a g coupe. supposedly his s2k had a turbo on it. but hte main point of the stroy is that she is tryin to tell him that the g can never be as fast as the s2k. says the g is tooo heavy to be as fast. i thougth it was pretty funny. just thought id share with you guys. what you think?

well off to the g meet and then dyno day tomorrow.

Daniel

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I think I raced my husband in his near-stock s2k (CAI) twice and beat him both times. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img] It was close the first time, and the second time he missed a shift so it was no contest. I understand what people mean when they say it’s a driver’s race. Now, once he gets a supercharger or a turbo, I doubt I’ll ever beat him (unless he misses a shift again)! [img]/w3timages/icons/shocked.gif[/img] I think that stock vs stock is truly a driver’s race.

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Thats pretty funny that you race your husband. No offense to you, but I hate it when people say its a drivers race. You can say that with any car. I can be racing an acura rsx or a honda civic and say its a drivers race. I think people should be talking about the specs and the cars top performance, instead of saying "its a drivers race." With that said, the specs for the G35 0-60 is 5.8 seconds and the S2000 is 6.1 (don't yell at me for these numbers, just going by what i read in car magazines).

 

Dan,
Both cars being completely stock... Equivalent drivers... and the S2K launches at 6000+ rpm's I'd put my money on the S2K, but I wouldn't trade my G for one.

See you tomorrow at the dyno day. -Neffster

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perfectly launched, i'd bet on the s2000

aren't the newer s2000s quicker than the prev. gens?

 

I agree regading the term "drivers race" but I think that people are using that term for when exceptional driving skill is necessary to get peak performance out of the vehicle. I think an average driver could attain good numbers with the G but not with an S2K. If driver skill makes the difference then it is a drivers race. If for the most part, even with an inexperienced driver one could win with reasonable driving tactics then it is less of a drivers race. Thus there are some moderately extreme tactics necessary to drive the S2K to its full potential. For example if two G35 ATs went head to head in D mode then that would likely not be a drivers race. In such a case you get maximum potential driving it in that mode by simply flooring it.

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Yeah but can he put his windows up with his remote on the S2000? A G coupe with the window mod would beat the turbo S2000 any day... What exactly do you mean by LED hood lights??????

Have fun at the meet, wish I could be there



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I think people should be talking about the specs and the cars top performance, instead of saying "its a drivers race." With that said, the specs for the G35 0-60 is 5.8 seconds and the S2000 is 6.1 (don't yell at me for these numbers, just going by what i read in car magazines).


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Well then, just in the name of science, the most recent issue of "Road & Track" lists the S2K 0-60 as 5.5 sec and the G35C as 6.1 sec. Also, the S2K has an indisputable horsepower-to-weight advantage. But we will continue to get "I killed an S2K posts" every week or so.

To those who want raw performance, why didn't you buy an EVO or an STI? You could have saved a few thousand and you could brag about killing S2Ks until the cows come home.

 

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Well then, just in the name of science, the most recent issue of "Road & Track" lists the S2K 0-60 as 5.5 sec and the G35C as 6.1 sec. Also, the S2K has an indisputable horsepower-to-weight advantage. But we will continue to get "I killed an S2K posts" every week or so.

To those who want raw performance, why didn't you buy an EVO or an STI? You could have saved a few thousand and you could brag about killing S2Ks until the cows come home.


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I absolutely agree. If you want to beat the pants off people, then trade in your G and get an STi, eVO, or whatever flies your kite.

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I think people should be talking about the specs and the cars top performance, instead of saying "its a drivers race."

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I agree with this as well - but usually, people refer to something as a "driver's race" in which both cars performance capabilities are comparable.

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I don't think that anyone bought their G just for "raw performance" only. But that doesn't mean one can't compare to similar cars in performance. Also HP to weight ratio is a factor but also must be factored with powerband and drivetrane. For example: the G35 AT and MT both have the exact same power to weight ratio yet the performance numbers aren't exact.

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unless an s2000 gets a really good launch, which is very hard to do. Its hard for them to keep up with the torque that we have. I've been in an s2000 and it feels weak unless you take it up pass 7k rpm.

 

Don't rely on just one magazine's data. In most recent Motor Trends S2K 0-60 is only 5.8 sec, and WRX 0-60 6.1 sec. It does not list the G35 Coupe though (I don't know why), Z350 goes 0-60 in 5.3 sec. However, if my memory served me right, Motor Trend past issues has list G35C6MT 0-60 in 5.6 sec, which is faster than S2K. So stop comparing the data based on one magazine, different magazine has different test result. What make "Road & Track"'s number more accurate than "Motor Trend"? It's not. So stop saying G35C6MT is slower than S2K just becuz you only read road and track but not motor trend. Based on one magazine's data to declare "S2K is faster than G35C6MT" is just ridiculous, go read some other magazine and you will find totally different result.

Secondly, i think the term "driver's race" refers to when neither car has clear advantage over the other in a race (ex. cars with similar 0-60 time, quarter mile time); therefore the result of the race is based on how each driver performed.

 

with equal driver, s2000 hands down.
s2000's best stock quater time is 13.7ish.
have you guys broken into 13s bone stock?

 

From a dig...maybe the s2000 would have a chance, from a roll...G35 all the way.


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