If you are going to waste space with the rest of the whiners get your info right. The G35 does have a two electric motors for adjusting the height for the front and rear of the drivers seat. I think you should do youtself a favor and buy another car. If you don't like it don't buy it. There are plenty of snobby sights catering to BMW's for whiners like yourself. This forum in case you didn't notice, (which could well be true since you don't seem to have a grasp on the facts), caters to people whom actually like this car. Imagine that. Save yourself and us some trouble and buy a beemer. Then you can waste the BMW forum space on whining. One more thing if you need so many hospital bed style adjustments for your achey bum just forget both cars and buy a caddy, there are plenty of gadgets an widgets to play with all day. I'm off my box now. Toodles. [img]/w3timages/icons/cool.gif[/img]

-Jason
Laser Red '03 6MT

 

as a felow g owner I am not proud of your attitude or comments but that is my opinion. If you want to cater to g owners they come is many different flavors....If you want to make this exclusive and cut down traffic restrict the forum to people that will only want to be lemmings.

To answer the question , I doubt they will change that feature, maybe they will. I would like at least a **** or a way to make the steps in the seatback smaller adjustments. Maybe once it is latched in place a rotary **** that is infinetely adjustable between the two detents

Mark

 

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I have no arguement with that. If you read the whole thread you'll notice that spoonie aka "whiney" has not purchased a G but is thinking about it. I have little patience for poeple whom want to detract from this site and the vehicle. Especially when most of the other people I have talked to here want to contribute in a non negative fashion. I don't ask for you to be proud of my comments nor do I seek your approval. But I am entitled to comment on others who's attitude does nothing but fill up space needlessly with negativity. Last time I checked the title of the site did not say "complain here". I welcome all contributions and traffic because diversity creates quality, but that doesn't mean I have like when some one complains about something with out the facts and without warranted reason. Being the lemming you are maybe you could also learn to comment in full legible sentances when you whine as well. I am proud to be a G owner no matter who's opinion I differ with, remember that. Peace

-Jason
Laser Red '03 6MT

 

oh god, not another flame post [img]/w3timages/icons/crazy.gif[/img]
I too once complained about people acting like the G is a ferrari F50, especially salesman attitudes at some dealerships
Of course this car has flaws, but you have to look at the overall view of the vehicle in question, and also does it satisfy your most important needs in a car....such as seat-comfort, i can see how seat comfort is important, especially if you have alot of seat-time like me.....I drive over 2 hours per day btwn work and home and work-related errands
To answer your main question about WHEN WILL THE G HAVE FULL POWER SEATS....nobody here knows, as there is such limited info regarding the 2004 model...even salesman dont know yet, the best thing to do then is to wait another 1-2 months as more details will be out then (rumor says 2004 model will go on sale in August)

<font color=green>-Ramb0</font color=green>

 

funny thing I notice is that the 350z has the power incline and the g35c doesn't.. shouldn't it be the other way around?

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StreetRyde Performance
Sacramento, CA
916-424-1785

 

I think it was mentioned above that since there are back seats it would take the seat "forever" to move forward to allow passengers into the back. Since the 350z doesn't have back seats the motorized seat back would be as much of an issue I think. I also noticed that the G35 Sedan has the motorized seat back but again not an issue since there are four doors. I think that was what infiniti was thinking when they made it manualy adjustable. Not even a big issue to me to each his own I guess.

-Jason
Laser Red '03 6MT

 

"I welcome all contributions and traffic because diversity creates quality, but that doesn't mean I have like when some one complains about something with out the facts and without warranted reason." Posted by ReDRok8.

You are a big hypocrite. You welcome all contributions? Yeah right. As long as they do not imply anything deficient about the G35 then all is okay. If the comment does imply a G35 deficiency, you would call that negative? Dude, you did not build or create the G35. Your responses to G35 criticism is way too personal.

As for facts, the BMW 330 has 8-way power seats for driver and passenger. The G35 coupe has 6-way power adjustments for the Driver, and 2-way for the passenger. If brining up that "FACT" is considered “whiney” to you, then you are a “whiner” for whining about it. Look the power adjustments on the G35 (Coupe in particular). The power adjustments are lacking. A Honda Accord Has 8-way power seats. But I guess you will never acknowledge any G35 deficiency because it does not have any. And if anyone does bring up a deficiency, you call them whiners. Dude, If that doesn’t make you a lemming I don’t know what does.

Also, if I were you I would run my post through a spell checker before you ridicule someone for poor grammar. Oh, I forgot you’re a hypocrite/Lemming.



<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by Spoonie on 03/26/03 08:30 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

Spell check your own post hypocrit before you make more ignorant claims. I have had no issues with anyone here on this board except "whiney", (you). You should not expect to come here and find that people would not be a little adverse to you bagging on a car that we all seem to like enough to purchase or plan to purchase, (have you purchased one?). The fact that you can only describe features about these cars which seem to have came out of a manual, off a sales brochure, or from a website tells me that you had little concern with exposing yourself to all the "Facts". Maybe you should go sit in the car and spend less time whining on internet forums? One "Fact" that has obviously eluded your great mind and that is blindingly obvious to everyone else is thus: The car is a "Coupe", that means that it has back seats, but only two doors. That also means that sometimes people might want to sit on those back seats. Am I going too fast for you? Those smart engineers, (You aren't an engineer right?), at infiniti decided that if the car had motorized front seat backs it would most likely take impossibley long for the seat to fold forward to allow rear passengers access. So they said, "Hey we don't want the rear seats to be completely useless like some other sport coupes", genius. So they decided not to add those extra motorized adjustments, the same ones that are found on the G35 Sedan's "8-way" adjustable seats, on the coupe. This allows quicker access to the back seats with less likely-hood that a seat motor will fail due to usage over time. Thats called "engineering" or forward thinking, again things that seem to elude you. It makes perfect sense to me and I'm not even an engineer, wow! This car is is a "Sports/Luxury Coupe", not just any sports car either one that is an outstanding value to most people including myself. These are the regular joes that would not normally find themselves in a premium vehicle like this. I will argue that fact with anyone including you. Your definition of luxury or maybe snobbery in your case, is most definately differant than mine. This is the best car I have ever owned and stupid little idiosyncrasies that seem to consume "wing-nuts" like yourself don't bother me. My problem with you is your attitude and negativity not your tastes. I welcome you to respond over and over again but it's useless, like squeezing water from a rock which I would say you share many traits. My opinion about you, your opinion, and this car are mine, deal with it. So now I'm going to go back to what I came to this forum to read about: "interesting" ideas and comments about a car I bought and love and no longer concerning myself with people like you, (I'll leave that to BMW). I'm through with this thread. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]

-Jason
Laser Red '03 6MT

 

I'm not. Ignorant claims? Now you are resorting to personal attacks. Have you checked your posts? You didn't even spell Hypocrite correctly. As for your huge paragraph, have you ever thought about breaking it up to make it more readable? I didn’t attack you personally, but if that’s what you want to do, go ahead. The tone of your posts suggests that you are taking this way too personally. It’s okay for people not like the vehicle that you love. Get over it! You seem to be insecure about your vehicle.

The 325ci passenger seat has 8-way “power” passenger seat, compared to the 2-way power seat on the passenger side of the G35c. The 325i’s seats slide forward to allow easier access for its rear passengers. The G35 does this electronically. I’m no engineer but given the choice between 8-way power and manual tilt for the rear passengers, and 2-way power and electronic tilt for the rear passengers. I’ll choose the 8-way power. From what you are describing, infinity sacrificed 8-way power seats for the ability to tilt the seat forward electronically for the rear passengers. That sounds like one hell of a sacrifice.

Dude, I like the G35 coupe. I even talked my friend into buying a G35 sedan. And you want to know the killer? I own a 330i. I recommended the G35 sedan over the 330i because it was a better deal. I sat in the G35c. IMO the interior looked on the cheap side. Definitely not up to Audi, BMW or Mercedes standards. The G35 costs thousands less than the MB, Audi or BMW, so I wouldn’t expect the interior to be up to those standards. The G35’s interior is a level above Nissan but a level below the Germans. The G35 is a nice car but it is not perfect. Other G35 owners acknowledged that point in this thread, but not you. I wonder why?

 

I guess for me, having 8-way power seats on the passenger side isn't a big deal but don't you think you're kind of overdoing the importance of it? I'll agree that the G's interior isn't exactly jewel-like in quality but making a big deal out of how many ways the power seats move (which aren't even used the vast majority of the time just because passengers are rarely in the seat more than once at a time) is kind of a weak complaint. Now no memory seats IS somewhat of a problem just because if you have rear occupants coming in, it's nice to be able to get your adjustments back to where they were before you pulled the seat forward for them. But I understand their limitation in doing so because of the manual recline.

At the end of the day though, I considered a loaded 330Ci and I chose the G35C independent of price, because it offered better performance, looks, comfort (I like the G's seats), reliability, and intangibles. This after test driving a 330Ci 3 times and even an M3. The conclusion I came to was that the 3-series are the most overrated automobiles in this class and that too many BMW owners buy because of the name.

 

3-series are overrated? That's a first. I always thought that BMW is/was the benchmark for small sports sedans. The 3-series makes the 10 best list year after year. BMW's are renowned for the handling and steering feel and power. I guess all of this isn't true. The most recent addition of Car and Driver has a test of the Acura TSX (issue with RX8 on cover). Read the first paragraph. If you want I can post the quote from the magazine when I get home.

The seats may not be a big deal, but after owning a car with 8-way seats and then contemplating going to 6-way or 2-way power, seems like a step backwards to me.

 

The reasons you mentioned are EXACTLY why I believe the 3-series is overrated. Mags like C&D consistently obsess over the 3-series as the best things since sliced bread (and the advertising dollars they get from BMW certainly doesn't do anything to curb that). There is no doubt in my mind that they are great cars - good handling, performance, decent luxury. But a consistent benchmark? The very fact that the 3-series is called the benchmark is an innate bias. It means other cars are rated against the strengths of the 3-series!

So as an example a car does not have the "feel" of a BMW which is a completely subjective measurement, it is rated down. Who is to say what the best "feel" should be? If BMW is defined as the benchmark there won't it always win?

 

It doesn't always win. The G35 beat it out. The funny thing about BMW bias is that when new cars come out they always compare them to the 3-series. Shouldn’t they be comparing their vehicles against the G35?

 

They should now.

 

It's the benchmark because it's always been the best, at least up until this year. The other makers are finally taking decent shots at it. The G35 is an excellent competitor. Definately an equal in performance, an overwhelming win in value, but falling a little short in the luxury department. The 3's reign may soon be over, but for the time being, I still see it as the benchmark.

And on that article where the G35 beat the 330i, the most interesting part of the comparison in my opinion was under the Lincoln LS. It took last place. They said that the fact that it was in last shouldn't be viewed as a weakness on the LS's part, but rather as a sign of how strong the entire group of cars has become these days.

2003.5 G35 Sedan Desert Platinum/Graphite Premium/Sport/Aero/Nav/Winter