04 350z touring 3247lbs, 04 350z roadster 3462lbs, 07 350z grand touring 3404lbs

e46 M3 3415

04 G35 sedan 6MT 3398lbs (52/48 weight balance) Coupe 6mt 3435 (53/47)

if the G is overweight, the z is as well and the z roadster if obese

350z arent very fast either

2001 M3
skidpad .89
600-ft slalom, mph 68.99
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 111

2003 G35 coupe
Skidpad, g 0.87
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 112 (6MT sedan 110ft)
600-ft slalom, mph 67.1
0-60 mph, sec 5.82 (6mt sedan 5.78)
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 14.23 @ 99.4 (6MT sedan 14.28 @ 100.3)

2003 350z Track
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 116
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 14.0 @ 101.2
0-60 mph, sec 5.5
600-ft slalom, mph 69.7
200-ft skidpad, lateral g 0.86


like I said, if the z is a sports car, the G is a sports car

 

^reference?

 

You can compare numbers all day.. I never said anything about their numbers on paper. The fact is the Z and M3 are more performance orientated, marketed as sports cars. I know I speak for the majority here that the G35 is an entry level luxury sports coupe. It is NOT classified as a "sports car".

 

This.

 

motortrend

marketed is the key word here

if the word skyline was on it, then it would be a sports car..lol

and dont get me wrong, I am not talking highly of the G here, I am saying its too close to the performance of many past sports cars to not be considered one

too many older cars that were "marketed" as sports cars have performace that is way too similar or worse then the G. C4 corvette, 300zx 2+2 was a cow, miatas are super slow as are MR2s, the CR-Z is a sports hybrid rofl, the maxima is a 4DSC(if anything is a 4DSC its the G sedan or some BMW sedan, certainly not the maxima), pontiac solstice/saturn sky?, NA Supra, and even the TT supra stock for stock isnt all that impressive, e36 m3 etc

 

Just because they offer it doesn't mean you should get it.

 

I am talking about the manufacturer.. Not a magazine. Nissan markets the Z as a sports car. The Toyota Corrolla probably has better performance numbers than probably most true sport cars in the 70s and 80s. Does that mean it's a sports car? Numbers don't classify a car. Is a Porsche Cayenne a sports car? No.

 

the corolla may out accelerate some old sports cars, but it isnt rwd or awd, nor is it interesting or fun to drive. The G is pretty amusing to drive

 

Lol no point in continuing this endless debate.. We can agree to disagree

 

I have to agree on the G and Z being similiar in straight line performance. I track at the dragstrip way too often (at least twice a month) and we usually race each other (G's and Z's, auto and manual) and it all comes down to the driver. Edge goes to the Z due to it's lighter driveshaft. The 03 base models are also pretty light at around 3100 lbs.

One would think a 50lb weight difference is significant but in fact, it ISN'T. Not in a car that has close to 300 crank hp. With our cars, anything less than a 100lb difference isn't really that significant. That can be made up in driver weight and the amount of fuel in the tank. If you have a fat driver in the Z and a skinny driver in a G, the weight difference goes out the door in a straight line. I'm sorry if people disagree with me, but a 50lb weight difference does not make your car significantly "faster" in a straight line.

As for track numbers, they are like dyno's. You can't really compare 0-60, 1/4 mile numbers, etc unless it is done on the same track on the same day IMHO. If test "A" is done in 100 degree heat with a 3000 ft elevation and test "B" is done in cool weather at sea level, the numbers will be significantly different. One thing magazines don't post is the DA (Density Altitude).

 

exactly

the difference between the z and the g in the 1/4 is less then the difference between runs in the same car for many drivers

 

Why do stupid threads like this go on for pages? AT vs MT and 2DR vs 4DR threads shouldnt be allowed on this site. Nothing but a bunch of fu(king idiots arguing with each other on the Internet.

 

penor?

 

I guess u can blame me for it but i jus wanted a straight answer LMAO Not no debate but i should have snapped. Any ways to all i love my 5A/T and i thinkl its a sports entry car and dont care what any body thinks

 

The G is actually defined as a GT. Grand Touring. there are some true sports cars.. like a ferrari or lambo. viper, lotus elise.