Originally Posted by sTeadFasT96

Lets keep this on topic right? Springs seem to be the topic, nothing more nothing less. Also it'd seem to make more sense that coilovers which contain components made for each other would work better than a very generic strut setup with general springs. I doubt people from Tokico planned on having struts that specifically worked with Tein H springs.

My point (to make it clear) is that lowering springs by themselves (which is what was originally asked and appears to be the topic of discussion) are not as functional in terms of handling performance relative to OE sport suspension.

Edit: In regards to your response to the other guy about brakes and suspension. I completely agree with you, but the aftermarket spring selection for our cars are once again SOFTER or very progressive compared to the OE springs, so wouldn't that be counter productive considering the general rule of thumb is that a reasonable amount of stiffness is desired?

Originally Posted by Kyle318

could have sworn this thread was originally about test pipes....and if you're going to spend the money lowering your car, either get coilovers or shocks AND lowering springs. Don't be a cheap *** ricer and just get a set of Eibachs......YOU DRIVE AN INFINITI NOT A HONDA!

Originally Posted by xdEnbOyx

So OP, unless you plan on auto-crossing, the benefits of HFC/TP are much higher than springs and camber and can be utilized much more. Personally I like to push it pedal to the metal off the line or getting on the freeway rather than taking a corner at the maximum speed my car can physically handle. If you don't plan on doing the latter or aren't concerned about the apparent 4x4 look some people claim everyone who doesn't have "dumped" cars have, get the ART pipes.


TL;DR: HFC/TP > Suspension for DD purposes IMO.

Originally Posted by walshtj

Wow, didn't realize I would create so much controversy.. Anyway I plan on getting hotchkis sways and endlink. I also have confirmed my agree idea of going with z stechs, thanks to FederalG!! And lastly I have to go with the Noob, Enboyx Id much rather do my cats now and do my suspension all at once(sways, drop, camber, endlinks).

Originally Posted by Xet

I don't get it, you said you are going with sways and endlinks but then you would rather do art pipes and then later all suspension at once....

Also don't bother doing sways/endlinks with camber and drop unless you are paying someone to do it all at once for cheaper. It makes no difference to performance to do them separately.



so because stock struts suck you can't change springs and then struts later? congratulations that makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Th3R3dStar323

really it makes no difference? changing out the struts to an upgraded strut with improved dampening or dampening control, makes ALOT of difference.

if your going to change the springs you might as well do the struts too, why wait and do it seperatly? You will end up taking up more time and money doing that, but if thats what you want to do then so be it. lol

Originally Posted by Footballmania32

I installed my springs first, and am actually in the process of buying some Tokicos. I did them seperately because I've been waiting for the right deal on the shocks. Brand new, the price is ridiculous. I've saved myself hundreds by waiting, thats sometimes why people decide to do them seperately. Hell if money wasn't a issue I would just get coils.. But unfortunately it is. But I refuse to install low quality parts on my car, so I am simply forced to wait around until the right sale comes along.

Originally Posted by Th3R3dStar323

really it makes no difference? changing out the struts to an upgraded strut with improved dampening or dampening control, makes ALOT of difference.

if your going to change the springs you might as well do the struts too, why wait and do it seperatly? You will end up taking up more time and money doing that, but if thats what you want to do then so be it. lol