From Go to Low.. Gotta Question For My Fellow Stancers...
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From Go to Low.. Gotta Question For My Fellow Stancers...
So Ive recently made the decision to say "Fck FI and NA builds.. Im going low." Which I have... I just installed my Dspecs and some Swift Progressives with a 1.8 drop in the front and 2 in the rear.. Ya, shes sittin pretty nice. I have the dspecs set to hard... and I hate the ride.. I was rubbin everywhere until I cut out some of my inner fender.. I hardly rub like I use too.. but its still annoying.. So my question is.. who removed their inner fenders for the cause...? Im thinking about removing the upper inner fenders and be done with the rubbing... i still need to go about 3/4 inch lower IMO.. but thats for another time. Im on the hunt for spacers and camber kits. Oh here are some pics. LMK what you think so far..
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No need to remove your fender liner. There are a few things you can do to prevent rubbing.
1. Remove the black plastic screw clips at the top of the fender. Should be held in by a screw. Rubbing tends to occur there.
2. On both the front and the rear, there is the metal mounting bracket that holds the front bumper to the front fender and the rear bumper to the rear fender. This is a major spot for rubbing. Shave this down with a dremel, but don't cut it since that may compromise the structural integrity of the bracket. Just shave it down enough so that it doesn't hit that bracket when you hit dips or bumps or whatever would cause your suspension to compress. It may take a bit of trial and error. I had the same issue with my driver side rear until I shaved it down. Took 5 test drives to finally shave down the bracket enough so no more rubbing for me.
3. Thinner profile tires may reduce the rubbing, gives you more room. Dunno your wheel / tire specs but judging from the images, they look like 35 series tires in the front. Just a guess on this one though.
1. Remove the black plastic screw clips at the top of the fender. Should be held in by a screw. Rubbing tends to occur there.
2. On both the front and the rear, there is the metal mounting bracket that holds the front bumper to the front fender and the rear bumper to the rear fender. This is a major spot for rubbing. Shave this down with a dremel, but don't cut it since that may compromise the structural integrity of the bracket. Just shave it down enough so that it doesn't hit that bracket when you hit dips or bumps or whatever would cause your suspension to compress. It may take a bit of trial and error. I had the same issue with my driver side rear until I shaved it down. Took 5 test drives to finally shave down the bracket enough so no more rubbing for me.
3. Thinner profile tires may reduce the rubbing, gives you more room. Dunno your wheel / tire specs but judging from the images, they look like 35 series tires in the front. Just a guess on this one though.
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CandlestickPark (10-09-2011)
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^great tips there, few more things to consider as well, especially since you aren't very low atm with those springs.
Dropping your car often includes rolling fenders and adding camber to prevent rubbing. Now if you get serious about being low and stanced then you are looking at much more aggressive offsets, stretching tires, more camber, and at times even pulling your fenders.
Dropping your car often includes rolling fenders and adding camber to prevent rubbing. Now if you get serious about being low and stanced then you are looking at much more aggressive offsets, stretching tires, more camber, and at times even pulling your fenders.
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You just answered my 3rd question. That's why you're rubbing. No amount of camber or bracket shaving will prevent your rubbing with 40 series sidewalls. Drop down and stretch a 35 series or run a 30 series tire.
If you want to go low without rubbing, there are some sacrifices that you're going to have to make, some risks that you have to do. If you're not willing to take those risks or sacrifices, than perhaps going low / being stanced isn't for you.
If you want to go low without rubbing, there are some sacrifices that you're going to have to make, some risks that you have to do. If you're not willing to take those risks or sacrifices, than perhaps going low / being stanced isn't for you.
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Ditch the 40 series tires/ roll or shave fenders/ stretch tires on wheels/ add camber to taste!
Doing a little homework will aslo go a VERY long way!... Look at other peoples setup and compare it to yours and do a little math... There is also tools/calcs to help you get an idea where you will be at...
1010tires.com has tire size and offset calcs that can help you very much...
Note: the calcs will not be accurate to the Tee, because different tire manufacturers make tires differently but like I said, it will give you a very nice idea of where you car will sit with new specs...
Doing a little homework will aslo go a VERY long way!... Look at other peoples setup and compare it to yours and do a little math... There is also tools/calcs to help you get an idea where you will be at...
1010tires.com has tire size and offset calcs that can help you very much...
Note: the calcs will not be accurate to the Tee, because different tire manufacturers make tires differently but like I said, it will give you a very nice idea of where you car will sit with new specs...
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Also tire stretching rule of thumb:
Per every half inch of wheel width add or remove 10mm of tire width...
Example: 225/35/19 on a 19x9.5 - 235/35/19 on a 19x10 - 245/35/19 on a 19x10.5 - 255/35/19 on a 19x11 - 265/35/19 on a 19x11.5
But tire stretching also depends on the person as well... Some take it to a more extreme level of stretch, while others like a little more conservative stretch just to gain a little more clearance...
Per every half inch of wheel width add or remove 10mm of tire width...
Example: 225/35/19 on a 19x9.5 - 235/35/19 on a 19x10 - 245/35/19 on a 19x10.5 - 255/35/19 on a 19x11 - 265/35/19 on a 19x11.5
But tire stretching also depends on the person as well... Some take it to a more extreme level of stretch, while others like a little more conservative stretch just to gain a little more clearance...
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damn.... well I guess I have to do this in steps... realllllly not wanting to get new tires up front... so I guess the only option i have is add some camber to the front and just figure out with the tires rubbin against and remove it. lol
trust me, stance is for me, unfortunately the deal I got on the tires was WAY TOO GOOD to pass up.. come on now.. all 4 for 500 shipped from cali to fl... brand new.. couldnt beat it... and being on a 20yearold budget sucks.
well yall, i greatly appreciate all the input.. ill take it all to heart and figure out where to go next..
low>go ftmfw
trust me, stance is for me, unfortunately the deal I got on the tires was WAY TOO GOOD to pass up.. come on now.. all 4 for 500 shipped from cali to fl... brand new.. couldnt beat it... and being on a 20yearold budget sucks.
well yall, i greatly appreciate all the input.. ill take it all to heart and figure out where to go next..
low>go ftmfw
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If stance really was for you, then you'd stop trying to keep the 40 series tires and get something thinner. I'm telling you, no amount of negative camber or dremeling is going to prevent you from rubbing with that set up.
Just because you got a good deal on your tires, doesn't necessarily mean that it was the correct one for what you want to do.
Just because you got a good deal on your tires, doesn't necessarily mean that it was the correct one for what you want to do.