i think i'm getting scammed at the dealership....
Originally Posted by henryG
vin, the bad part is the dealership has a really good rep. the dealership is competition infiniti. i heard really good things about them but i'm getting screwed over. the car was suppose to come from near boston
Originally Posted by Blitzjb
Competition has the best reputation of any Infiniti dealer on Long Island. There is probably a problem with the dealer in Boston that they are getting it from. Competition has a lot full of coupes, you couldnt find one you liked on the lot?
Originally Posted by Blitzjb
Competition has the best reputation of any Infiniti dealer on Long Island. There is probably a problem with the dealer in Boston that they are getting it from. Competition has a lot full of coupes, you couldnt find one you liked on the lot?
Originally Posted by VinNYCG
Damn Competition is good so thats pretty surprising. Anyhow yea you should def. be able to get back your deposit. Atlantic Infiniti is the dealer to work with.
-Vin
-Vin
Originally Posted by henryG
You think its gonna be hard getting my deposit back? any hookups at atlantic infiniti?
-Vin
Originally Posted by Blitzjb
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Originally Posted by henryG
sorry guys, i've been really sick the last couple of days. GOOD NEWS! i got my coupe last night at 7:30pm. everything went smooth. the car had 156 miles on it. At first, my salesguy told me its coming from boston but it really came from holman in NJ. i'll post pics when i'm feeling better. thanks guys!
Enjoy.
Henry - CONGRATS MAN...!!!
Just to clear a couple things up as a former salesman here..."acuras".
Even if the car has 500 or 5000 miles on the odometer, it is still considered a "NEW" car and registered as a "NEW" car. The only other time it will not be considered new is if the dealer put that car in as a loaner car...When the dealer re-sells a loaner, they have to let the buyer know that it was a former loaner vehicle and was registered. Another time would be if the deal "ROLLED-BACK"... That means the dealership sold the car, registered it, customer took delivery but they couldn't get financing approved (worse case scenario). This happens a lot with honda and acura buyers but with Infiniti and other luxury car buyers, not as big of a problem. When a "ROLL-BACK" occurs, the dealer if the customer doesn't bring the car back, they usually have to repossess the car. We'd tell the customer first they couldn't get financed, refund their down payment...if they fail, then we go out and take the car back and legally steal it back...I've done this a few times.
Re: Dealer Trading / Dealers buying and selling cars from other dealers -
Let's say Infiniti Dealer A sold not traded 3 g35's let's say a red, black, and white 6mt cpes to Infiniti Dealer B. Dealer B would have to sell them as "USED" even if the car had only 3 miles on it. Dealer B must tell the buyer that they purchased the car from a different dealer. The MSRP will state the ORIGINAL DEALER on the sticker. This occurs when Dealer B doesn't have enough cars in stock but needs cars ASAP and has the cash to buy from other dealers.
Re: Timeframe after you put a deposit -
Usually it does only take a few days to get the car after a "LOCATE" has been done. What holds up a "dealer-trade" can be one of the following. Let's say you wanted a 2004 IP cpe 6mt w/NAVI...you know this car is hard to find.
You're in San Francisco but the closest one is in let's say Dallas, TX. The dealer in Dallas, TX first of all has to be willing to most likely sell the car not trade it. To have a car trucked over is usually about $500.00. Also, it's possible the car just arrived at the dealership let's say on a Friday...The dealer needs to do a Pre Delivery Inspection (P.D.I.) of course this won't happen till Monday or depending on how busy the service department is. Once that's done, they have to wait for the dealer in San Francisco, CA to issue a check. The dealer in Dallas, TX won't ship the car until the check is deposited into their account (don't forget that it takes time to get a check ready and have it mailed). Also, not all dealers own their cars. Most dealers like the one I worked for finance them. The dealer pays what is called a "flooring" charge (cost to have the car on the showroom) that includes gas, service guys, rent, advertising, sales people etc...Flooring cost is usually about 5% of the invoice price of the car...that's why for example you don't find too many Acura dealers with an NSX on the floor...high flooring cost and takes too long to sell.
After that, they have to arrange for a truck to pick up the car and it takes another few days to drive it over...Now don't forget if you have other installs...like body kit, spoiler, low-jack, paint and interior protection...those things take time to have it installed...
In short, it's not that the salesman is trying to screw you over...think about it...if he doesn't sell the car he doesn't get the commission.
I hope this answers everyone's questions...
Re: 156 miles -
NOT BAD AT ALL...!!!
Your warranty will expire at 60,156 miles.
Enjoy your G...!!!
(PS) Oh yah because the 2005's are already here, it probably took longer to find an existing 2004 model...
Bobby
Just to clear a couple things up as a former salesman here..."acuras".
Even if the car has 500 or 5000 miles on the odometer, it is still considered a "NEW" car and registered as a "NEW" car. The only other time it will not be considered new is if the dealer put that car in as a loaner car...When the dealer re-sells a loaner, they have to let the buyer know that it was a former loaner vehicle and was registered. Another time would be if the deal "ROLLED-BACK"... That means the dealership sold the car, registered it, customer took delivery but they couldn't get financing approved (worse case scenario). This happens a lot with honda and acura buyers but with Infiniti and other luxury car buyers, not as big of a problem. When a "ROLL-BACK" occurs, the dealer if the customer doesn't bring the car back, they usually have to repossess the car. We'd tell the customer first they couldn't get financed, refund their down payment...if they fail, then we go out and take the car back and legally steal it back...I've done this a few times.
Re: Dealer Trading / Dealers buying and selling cars from other dealers -
Let's say Infiniti Dealer A sold not traded 3 g35's let's say a red, black, and white 6mt cpes to Infiniti Dealer B. Dealer B would have to sell them as "USED" even if the car had only 3 miles on it. Dealer B must tell the buyer that they purchased the car from a different dealer. The MSRP will state the ORIGINAL DEALER on the sticker. This occurs when Dealer B doesn't have enough cars in stock but needs cars ASAP and has the cash to buy from other dealers.
Re: Timeframe after you put a deposit -
Usually it does only take a few days to get the car after a "LOCATE" has been done. What holds up a "dealer-trade" can be one of the following. Let's say you wanted a 2004 IP cpe 6mt w/NAVI...you know this car is hard to find.
You're in San Francisco but the closest one is in let's say Dallas, TX. The dealer in Dallas, TX first of all has to be willing to most likely sell the car not trade it. To have a car trucked over is usually about $500.00. Also, it's possible the car just arrived at the dealership let's say on a Friday...The dealer needs to do a Pre Delivery Inspection (P.D.I.) of course this won't happen till Monday or depending on how busy the service department is. Once that's done, they have to wait for the dealer in San Francisco, CA to issue a check. The dealer in Dallas, TX won't ship the car until the check is deposited into their account (don't forget that it takes time to get a check ready and have it mailed). Also, not all dealers own their cars. Most dealers like the one I worked for finance them. The dealer pays what is called a "flooring" charge (cost to have the car on the showroom) that includes gas, service guys, rent, advertising, sales people etc...Flooring cost is usually about 5% of the invoice price of the car...that's why for example you don't find too many Acura dealers with an NSX on the floor...high flooring cost and takes too long to sell.
After that, they have to arrange for a truck to pick up the car and it takes another few days to drive it over...Now don't forget if you have other installs...like body kit, spoiler, low-jack, paint and interior protection...those things take time to have it installed...
In short, it's not that the salesman is trying to screw you over...think about it...if he doesn't sell the car he doesn't get the commission.
I hope this answers everyone's questions...
Re: 156 miles -
NOT BAD AT ALL...!!!
Your warranty will expire at 60,156 miles.
Enjoy your G...!!!
(PS) Oh yah because the 2005's are already here, it probably took longer to find an existing 2004 model...
Bobby
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