pulled away from an sti this morning with my '05
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Buddy, great story, I like what i just read. Morons like that who think their the man, or in this case the man and his peasants thought they could roll up and smoke you. I really don't care about the sti. I'm glad they lost. You should of pulled a U-turn and drive by them and laugh at them and point, and then drive off.
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Originally Posted by giddyup69
i didn't intend to start a flamefest with this thread... if we could keep it cool that would be great. no doubt the sti is a monster... i'd never race one head-to-head with my coupe. but, was wondering if the new sti's suffer the same turbo lag as the wrx's? i test drove an '03 a few years ago (wrx) and couldn't stand how slow the car started with the weird jolt after 4k rpm's. i'm also not a big fan of that massive wing in the back.... does it have any functionality to it or is it just for show? just curious here.
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I measured my STi wing as carefully as I could, and then used the LARC wing simulator to calculate the downforce. I assumed the following parameters:
Thickness: 25% of chord (2.0 in)
Camber: -6.5% of chord (-0.5 in)
Chord: 8 inches
Span: 4 feet
Angle of attack: -1.2 degrees
Altitude: sea level
These seem to be the best match to the STi, as well as I could do with just a tape measure. I assumed that the angle of attack was the angle of the top of the wing end plates. I measued this angle with geometry, not a level, so the angle of the car on the ground did not effect the measurement.
The calculated downforce is 60 lb at 100mph. At 150 mph, the downforce is 140 lb. These are increases in download on the rear axle of about 5% and 10%, assuming 60-40 f/r weight distribution. These are the numbers for the top wing only, not the deck lid spoiler, which will add a little more. These numbers are not insignificant.
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Originally Posted by googe
no, no it doesnt (ive owned both)
EDIT the WRX is a TD04, the STi is a VF39...sorry 'bout that
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Originally Posted by Highlife
I see you have an 05 G, which means, while you were saving your money to by one i alread had my 03 g35 for a good while before i bought my STI, so don't go thinking that i'm some guest here trying to start trouble. I've been using this site for awhile, And i purchased my coupe when they FIRST came out! So i have something to say about the G or STI, i think i can, because i owned both! And both are awesome cars.
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Originally Posted by Highlife
"Due to the STI's lack of low end torque" Huh? Sorry but you have no idea of what you're talking about! My 05's torque is incredible throughout all 6 gears.
Look, take your WRX STi, load it with four 150 lbs. passengers, and I'll race you with my stock G35C with just me in it, and I'll walk you every time. That's the only point I was trying to make.
If you're looking to try to prove how wonderful your STi is, don't waste your time. This is a G35 forum. In respect to the topic starter, lets not start a flame fest.
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Originally Posted by Z06ified
Whatever. Incredible torque compared to what? 300 lbs. @ 4,000 RPM's is good, but incredible doesn't come to mind.
Look, take your WRX STi, load it with four 150 lbs. passengers, and I'll race you with my stock G35C with just me in it, and I'll walk you every time. That's the only point I was trying to make.
If you're looking to try to prove how wonderful your STi is, don't waste your time. This is a G35 forum. In respect to the topic starter, lets not start a flame fest.
Look, take your WRX STi, load it with four 150 lbs. passengers, and I'll race you with my stock G35C with just me in it, and I'll walk you every time. That's the only point I was trying to make.
If you're looking to try to prove how wonderful your STi is, don't waste your time. This is a G35 forum. In respect to the topic starter, lets not start a flame fest.
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Originally Posted by Highlife
Why would i attempt to prove how fast an STI is? Every car enthusiast knows its (STI) capabilities, but what annoys me is when people comment on engine specs or what a car "lacks" without knowing what their talking about, or better yet driving one at least. You make yourself look silly by applying your own opinion on actual specs without first doing some research. The internet is easy to find info you know! And yes 300 lb ft of torque is alot and it is incredible..too me! Don't agree...test drive one!
I would say the STI is an incredible car and about the only thing it "lacks" is "Looks"! That is not opinion, that is FACT!
Anyway, that was the best kill story I have ever read!
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I would say the STI is an incredible car and about the only thing it "lacks" is "Looks"! That is not opinion, that is FACT!
Anyway, that was the best kill story I have ever read!
Anyway, that was the best kill story I have ever read!
(that is....if you don't stall it)
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Originally Posted by chops
I would say the STI is an incredible car and about the only thing it "lacks" is "Looks"! That is not opinion, that is FACT!
Anyway, that was the best kill story I have ever read!
Anyway, that was the best kill story I have ever read!
Funny how people on these sites bash a car in public , but admire it in private. I can't tell you how many people ask about my car and inquire about it's uniqueness. I think the obnoxious wing on my STI sets it part from other automobiles in a major/extreme way, which makes it, in my opinion SPECIAL. In NJ where i live, G's, sedans/coupes are everywhere. At every corner. I'm sick of this cookie-cutter society where everyone drives the same car. I see middle-aged moms driving G-coupes. I want a mans car! Looking at the amount of money you WASTED modding your G, i am going to assume you are not pleased with it in its original form!
Originally Posted by Highlife
Funny how people on these sites bash a car in public , but admire it in private. I can't tell you how many people ask about my car and inquire about it's uniqueness. I think the obnoxious wing on my STI sets it part from other automobiles in a major/extreme way, which makes it, in my opinion SPECIAL. In NJ where i live, G's, sedans/coupes are everywhere. At every corner. I'm sick of this cookie-cutter society where everyone drives the same car. I see middle-aged moms driving G-coupes. I want a mans car! Looking at the amount of money you WASTED modding your G, i am going to assume you are not pleased with it in its original form!
Different strokes.....but the STI is FUGLY, stripped down, boy racer with a great engine & AWD. JMO
But I digress.....the orig. post was funny.
Flame on. J/K
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Originally Posted by OldVFRGuy
Dude....you must spend your life high......
Different strokes.....but the STI is FUGLY, stripped down, boy racer with a great engine & AWD. JMO
But I digress.....the orig. post was funny.
Flame on. J/K
Different strokes.....but the STI is FUGLY, stripped down, boy racer with a great engine & AWD. JMO
But I digress.....the orig. post was funny.
Flame on. J/K
Only women refer to automobiles as "ugly" Men look at the total package, and usually use words such as "interesting" when discussing vehicles. So change your name to OLDVFRGirl!
Originally Posted by Highlife
Only women refer to automobiles as "ugly" Men look at the total package, and usually use words such as "interesting" when discussing vehicles. So change your name to OLDVFRGirl!
That's a man term.