View Poll Results: Is the G35 a "Sports Car"
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Is your G35 a sports car?
You mean he didn't clock that sick lap at nurburging diving his own car?
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Congrats on your Audi RS4, very nice ride indeed. I would fully expect that a ultra performance AWD V8 that had an original MSRP of $70k to outperform a stock G Coupe or Sedan that had a MSRP at half the price. A Cadillac CTS-V Wagon will also make quick work of the G and it is a station wagon that the Griswolds could take to Wally World.
Your Chocolate comment comes across to me as less an opinion, and more of an opportunity to proclaim ''my car is faster than yours''
Do you remember the time you drove your G Coupe off of the lot? What were you driving back then a Sports Car or Sporty car?
Your Chocolate comment comes across to me as less an opinion, and more of an opportunity to proclaim ''my car is faster than yours''
Do you remember the time you drove your G Coupe off of the lot? What were you driving back then a Sports Car or Sporty car?
The topic of this thread is whether the G is a sports car - not whether a Cadillac CTS-V can kill a G. Unless you consider the CTS-V a sports car?
And of course the chocolate comment is an opinion - does it bother you? How about I owned a Honda Civic. Does that make my chocolate comment any less valid or the G more of a sports car? You called me out on that one, wow - and you should definitely continue on that thread - don't listen to anyone with a nice car because they're just too caught up on how great their car is... lol. Good luck with that.
Drive a sports car and then report back on how much of a sports car the G is...
And do I remember the day I bought my G? I sure do. I bought it fully aware that it was not a sports car and it never crossed my mind to delude myself otherwise. It's a great car, but not a sports car - in stock form. I sold the G for an RS because of that exact reason.
And are you guys for real?
You're claiming it's lame to post the RS's track times at Nurburgring? Shows how little you know on how a sports car is truly measured... where do you think most sports cars are designed for and fine tuned at? And because I personally didn't "clock that sick lap" doesn't make it valid? You guys are hilarious... not sure what reality you're living in but stay with it - you belong there.
I thought it would be fun to hang around the G community still, but I see it has changed for the worse...
Last edited by g35dalf; Oct 15, 2013 at 08:10 PM.
My mistake Dalf, I thought this thread was dead. Apparently you either didn't read or comprehend my reply, your chocolate comment was not an opinion, it was an opportunity for you to drop the my car is faster than a G slam to all the readers on the forum. I agree with you, you have made a nice choice in your new car, but your tactic comes off as little self indulgent.
I'm surprised that you are still trolling on a G forum now that you have found yourself a true sports car.
BTW, in the 80's I drove an 87 928S, which in that day and age most folks considered it a sports car....but didn't like the high cost of maintenance that comes with fine German automobile....good luck with yours.
I'm surprised that you are still trolling on a G forum now that you have found yourself a true sports car.
BTW, in the 80's I drove an 87 928S, which in that day and age most folks considered it a sports car....but didn't like the high cost of maintenance that comes with fine German automobile....good luck with yours.
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My mistake Dalf, I thought this thread was dead. Apparently you either didn't read or comprehend my reply, your chocolate comment was not an opinion, it was an opportunity for you to drop the my car is faster than a G slam to all the readers on the forum. I agree with you, you have made a nice choice in your new car, but your tactic comes off as little self indulgent.
I'm surprised that you are still trolling on a G forum now that you have found yourself a true sports car.
BTW, in the 80's I drove an 87 928S, which in that day and age most folks considered it a sports car....but didn't like the high cost of maintenance that comes with fine German automobile....good luck with yours.
I'm surprised that you are still trolling on a G forum now that you have found yourself a true sports car.
BTW, in the 80's I drove an 87 928S, which in that day and age most folks considered it a sports car....but didn't like the high cost of maintenance that comes with fine German automobile....good luck with yours.
But I still say that the G is not a sports car !
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In my honest opinion, I don't consider my "G" to be a sports cars. I believe it was created to be a Grand Tourer hence the name GT350 (which is only used in other countries but can still hold the same meaning in America where it is called a G35). Cars like Corvettes, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsche, 350-370Z's, Audi R8 and the like are sports cars and some exotic sports cars. Many manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, Audi and so on take a regular model beef up the engine (or in most cases drop in another more powerful engine all together), change suspension, and do other things to make certain models better and faster in every way such as the Audi RS4, AMG series, M series but does that make them sports cars I think not. Consider what most of you do and have been doing for quite some time now, which is. Most of you buy a car you like mod it the way you want by beefing up its suspension, adding a better exhaust system, increasing horsepower (to your liking) by changing intake systems, connecting rods, adding forced induction, giving your cars a more appealing interior, and these are just to name a few. What I'm getting at is. In modding we do the same things the manufacturer does, we just do it after the fact. Now after modding your cars, lets say a "G" can put down the same time at the Nurburg ring as a Ferrari 360 modena or an F430. Does it make your "G" a sports cars. Some would think not and some might say yes. Whether a car is a sports car or not is all in the eyes of the beholder or should I say owner. Me, I consider my "G" to be a Grand Tourer which from the factory is exactly what it is. Just because I beef up everything and I've now got 600 horses at the wheels (no my car doesn't have 600 horses yet but it's will soon, I just used the numbers to make a point) may not make it a sports car but as long as technology keeps getting better and cars keep getting better and guys and gals like us have a love for modding them and making them into something more beautiful then when they rolled off the lot (in most cases) then that sports car line will always be blurred. For the record. Some of you guys have some of the sickest "G's" I have ever seen with attention to detail that I think is way better than the manufacturer and shows the "G" platform in a light some people may never see. So to all of you keep modding and keep blurring that sports car line. Brooks out. 
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In my honest opinion, I don't consider my "G" to be a sports car. I believe it was created to be a Grand Tourer hence the name GT350 (which is only used in other countries but can still hold the same meaning in America where it is called a G35).
Cars like Corvettes, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsche, 350-370Z's, Audi R8 and the like are sports cars and some exotic sports cars. Many manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, Audi and so on take a regular model beef up the engine (or in most cases drop in another more powerful engine all together), change suspension, and do other things to make certain models better and faster in every way such as the Audi RS4, AMG series, M series but does that make them sports cars, I think not.
Consider what most of you do and have been doing for quite some time now, which is, most of you buy a car you like mod it the way you want by beefing up its suspension, adding a better exhaust system, increasing horsepower (to your liking) by changing intake systems, connecting rods, adding forced induction, giving your cars a more appealing interior, and these are just to name a few.
What I'm getting at is. In modding we do the same things the manufacturer does, we just do it after the fact.
Now after modding your cars, lets say a "G" can put down the same time at the Nurburg ring as a Ferrari 360 modena or an F430. Does it make your "G" a sports car? Some would think not.
Whether a car is a sports car or not is all in the eyes of the beholder or should I say owner.
Me, I consider my "G" to be a Grand Tourer which from the factory is exactly what it is. Just because I beef up everything and I've now got 600 horses at the wheels (no my car doesn't have 600 horses yet but it's will soon, I just used the numbers to make a point) may not make it a sports car but as long as technology keeps getting better and cars keep getting better and guys and gals like us have a love for modding them and making them into something more beautiful then when they rolled off the lot (in most cases) then that sports car line will always be blurred.
For the record. Some of you guys have some of the sickest "G's" I have ever seen with attention to detail that I think is way better than the manufacturer and shows the "G" platform in a light some people may never see. So to all of you keep modding and keep blurring that sports car line. Brooks out.
Cars like Corvettes, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsche, 350-370Z's, Audi R8 and the like are sports cars and some exotic sports cars. Many manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, Audi and so on take a regular model beef up the engine (or in most cases drop in another more powerful engine all together), change suspension, and do other things to make certain models better and faster in every way such as the Audi RS4, AMG series, M series but does that make them sports cars, I think not.
Consider what most of you do and have been doing for quite some time now, which is, most of you buy a car you like mod it the way you want by beefing up its suspension, adding a better exhaust system, increasing horsepower (to your liking) by changing intake systems, connecting rods, adding forced induction, giving your cars a more appealing interior, and these are just to name a few.
What I'm getting at is. In modding we do the same things the manufacturer does, we just do it after the fact.
Now after modding your cars, lets say a "G" can put down the same time at the Nurburg ring as a Ferrari 360 modena or an F430. Does it make your "G" a sports car? Some would think not.
Whether a car is a sports car or not is all in the eyes of the beholder or should I say owner.
Me, I consider my "G" to be a Grand Tourer which from the factory is exactly what it is. Just because I beef up everything and I've now got 600 horses at the wheels (no my car doesn't have 600 horses yet but it's will soon, I just used the numbers to make a point) may not make it a sports car but as long as technology keeps getting better and cars keep getting better and guys and gals like us have a love for modding them and making them into something more beautiful then when they rolled off the lot (in most cases) then that sports car line will always be blurred.
For the record. Some of you guys have some of the sickest "G's" I have ever seen with attention to detail that I think is way better than the manufacturer and shows the "G" platform in a light some people may never see. So to all of you keep modding and keep blurring that sports car line. Brooks out.
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Many manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, Audi and so on take a regular model beef up the engine (or in most cases drop in another more powerful engine all together), change suspension, and do other things to make certain models better and faster in every way such as the Audi RS4, AMG series, M series but does that make them sports cars I think not.
You may not care about it and that's fine, but you made a statement which was obviously not based in fact.
RS is German for RennSport - Racing Sport.
The RS4 has:
- the 14.4" 8 piston brakes from the Lamborghini Gallardo (Audi owns Lamborghini);
- the V8 engine is from the R8 - a highly reworked, high-revving variant of the regular Audi 4.2
- a baffled sump to ensure oil supply under racing's high G load;
- NACA ducts for greater brake cooling;
- 3 radiators for greater oil and engine cooling;
- Dynamic Ride Control which has been banned by the WRC;
- Audi quattro with more aggressive torque bias ratio;
- it was the World Car of the Year 2007 - beating out rivals like the Porsche 911 Turbo, Porsche 911 GT3, Ferrari 599 GTB, and Jaguar XKR.
You may think it's a boosted A4 or S4 but you'd be very wrong. It's completely reworked by quattro GmbH for Audi.
I suggest you take one for a test drive and see for yourself. :-)
Check out this 8 second video - 2nd car is the RS4. Still raises the hair on the back of my head... lol
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Example: new pads and rotors all around is $4,000.
If you know how to DIY, including a brake fluid flush is around $1,000. There's no way I would pay a stealership $4K for brakes.
But more complicated jobs like replacing a timing chain guide is $5,000, and not something I would mess with, as this engine is not ordinary - requires in-depth Audi knowledge and experience. So if ever I break a chain tensioner or guide, I'd have to suck it up.
Worse still, blow an engine and it's $20,000. No joke. But for what I get out of it, it's worth it to me... as I'm sure your 928 was to you. :-)
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g35dalf, I get your point and actually everything you said aligns with what I was talking about.
Every manufacturer has what I'm going to call a sports division. Mercedes has AMG, BMW has the M division, Audi has Gmbh, Infiniti now has IPL, Ford has SVT, and so forth and so on. These divisions take a well liked model and improve upon its performance by doing everything you mentioned for the RS4 but, just because you greatly improve upon a cars performance doesn't make it a sprots car.
If that were the case, you can consider the Mercedes S65 AMG to be a sports car. It has a much better braking system, the twin turbo 12 cylinder has been reworked along with the transmission and the cars ECU has been remapped. It is capable of doing well over 200 miles an hour (in America it is limited to 155 mph although you can pay an extra premium which will limit the car to 187 mph).
There are also cars that were created right out the box to blur the line of what is a sports car such as the Maserati Quattroporte, which right of the show room floor has well over 590 horses and is capable of doing 190 miles an hour all day long and that's without any special performance division to acheive these goals. The Bentley Flying Spur is another sedan with over 600 horses and is capable of doing well over 190 mph but is it a sports car. I think not.
Now, I'm not trying to discredit the RS4, I would be an idiot for doing so, it's actually my favorite of the Audi brand. A small car with huge performance potential. Only an idiot would hate that.
The question was, is the "G" a sports car and my answer to that is no, to me it's one hell of a Grand Tourer, which is what is was created to be from the factory. Now over time there are people like candlestick park, cain jdm, and a tony walls just to name a few. These guy and a lot others have taken their "G" to another level and they clearly blur the line of can the "G" be considered a sports car. As for the RS4, first off I'm jealous of you because that thing is a beast and you are one lucky dude for owning it but, to all the "G" owners out there I salute you and keep bluring that line.
One more thing their is a "G" I've seen on youtube that has been turned into an all out dragster and that thing hauls more than azz. Check it out. Brooks out.
Every manufacturer has what I'm going to call a sports division. Mercedes has AMG, BMW has the M division, Audi has Gmbh, Infiniti now has IPL, Ford has SVT, and so forth and so on. These divisions take a well liked model and improve upon its performance by doing everything you mentioned for the RS4 but, just because you greatly improve upon a cars performance doesn't make it a sprots car.
If that were the case, you can consider the Mercedes S65 AMG to be a sports car. It has a much better braking system, the twin turbo 12 cylinder has been reworked along with the transmission and the cars ECU has been remapped. It is capable of doing well over 200 miles an hour (in America it is limited to 155 mph although you can pay an extra premium which will limit the car to 187 mph).
There are also cars that were created right out the box to blur the line of what is a sports car such as the Maserati Quattroporte, which right of the show room floor has well over 590 horses and is capable of doing 190 miles an hour all day long and that's without any special performance division to acheive these goals. The Bentley Flying Spur is another sedan with over 600 horses and is capable of doing well over 190 mph but is it a sports car. I think not.
Now, I'm not trying to discredit the RS4, I would be an idiot for doing so, it's actually my favorite of the Audi brand. A small car with huge performance potential. Only an idiot would hate that.
The question was, is the "G" a sports car and my answer to that is no, to me it's one hell of a Grand Tourer, which is what is was created to be from the factory. Now over time there are people like candlestick park, cain jdm, and a tony walls just to name a few. These guy and a lot others have taken their "G" to another level and they clearly blur the line of can the "G" be considered a sports car. As for the RS4, first off I'm jealous of you because that thing is a beast and you are one lucky dude for owning it but, to all the "G" owners out there I salute you and keep bluring that line.
One more thing their is a "G" I've seen on youtube that has been turned into an all out dragster and that thing hauls more than azz. Check it out. Brooks out.
Their cars no doubtably have had a lot of work done, but they were built more for show than performance.
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g35dalf, I get your point and actually everything you said aligns with what I was talking about.
Every manufacturer has what I'm going to call a sports division. Mercedes has AMG, BMW has the M division, Audi has Gmbh, Infiniti now has IPL, Ford has SVT, and so forth and so on. These divisions take a well liked model and improve upon its performance by doing everything you mentioned for the RS4 but, just because you greatly improve upon a cars performance doesn't make it a sprots car.
If that were the case, you can consider the Mercedes S65 AMG to be a sports car. It has a much better braking system, the twin turbo 12 cylinder has been reworked along with the transmission and the cars ECU has been remapped. It is capable of doing well over 200 miles an hour (in America it is limited to 155 mph although you can pay an extra premium which will limit the car to 187 mph).
There are also cars that were created right out the box to blur the line of what is a sports car such as the Maserati Quattroporte, which right of the show room floor has well over 590 horses and is capable of doing 190 miles an hour all day long and that's without any special performance division to acheive these goals. The Bentley Flying Spur is another sedan with over 600 horses and is capable of doing well over 190 mph but is it a sports car. I think not.
Now, I'm not trying to discredit the RS4, I would be an idiot for doing so, it's actually my favorite of the Audi brand. A small car with huge performance potential. Only an idiot would hate that.
The question was, is the "G" a sports car and my answer to that is no, to me it's one hell of a Grand Tourer, which is what is was created to be from the factory. Now over time there are people like candlestick park, cain jdm, and a tony walls just to name a few. These guy and a lot others have taken their "G" to another level and they clearly blur the line of can the "G" be considered a sports car. As for the RS4, first off I'm jealous of you because that thing is a beast and you are one lucky dude for owning it but, to all the "G" owners out there I salute you and keep bluring that line.
One more thing their is a "G" I've seen on youtube that has been turned into an all out dragster and that thing hauls more than azz. Check it out. Brooks out.
Every manufacturer has what I'm going to call a sports division. Mercedes has AMG, BMW has the M division, Audi has Gmbh, Infiniti now has IPL, Ford has SVT, and so forth and so on. These divisions take a well liked model and improve upon its performance by doing everything you mentioned for the RS4 but, just because you greatly improve upon a cars performance doesn't make it a sprots car.
If that were the case, you can consider the Mercedes S65 AMG to be a sports car. It has a much better braking system, the twin turbo 12 cylinder has been reworked along with the transmission and the cars ECU has been remapped. It is capable of doing well over 200 miles an hour (in America it is limited to 155 mph although you can pay an extra premium which will limit the car to 187 mph).
There are also cars that were created right out the box to blur the line of what is a sports car such as the Maserati Quattroporte, which right of the show room floor has well over 590 horses and is capable of doing 190 miles an hour all day long and that's without any special performance division to acheive these goals. The Bentley Flying Spur is another sedan with over 600 horses and is capable of doing well over 190 mph but is it a sports car. I think not.
Now, I'm not trying to discredit the RS4, I would be an idiot for doing so, it's actually my favorite of the Audi brand. A small car with huge performance potential. Only an idiot would hate that.
The question was, is the "G" a sports car and my answer to that is no, to me it's one hell of a Grand Tourer, which is what is was created to be from the factory. Now over time there are people like candlestick park, cain jdm, and a tony walls just to name a few. These guy and a lot others have taken their "G" to another level and they clearly blur the line of can the "G" be considered a sports car. As for the RS4, first off I'm jealous of you because that thing is a beast and you are one lucky dude for owning it but, to all the "G" owners out there I salute you and keep bluring that line.
One more thing their is a "G" I've seen on youtube that has been turned into an all out dragster and that thing hauls more than azz. Check it out. Brooks out.
It reminds me of when the original (82) Buick Regal Grand National came out. It was built for NASCAR (guys like Richard Petty) but could be bought at a dealership if you had the cash. Talk about blurring the lines... and shows this has been going on for a long time...
Funny part; the Regal GN initially only had 125 hp and 205 lb·ft... lol