projecter > reflectors... as people mentioned...

i mean technically every car supposed to have the same 4k HID in stock form from what ive read from forums.. but i guess its all in the design of the reflecters...etc

 

On my accord, i have a 6000k HID system, and i will assure you that it is MUCH brighter than our stock 4300K. My friend with a Integra TypeR converted his to 10,000k, and his is extremly bright purple. They even make HID's that are 30,000K.

 

Heres a chart that only goes up to about 7000k... It can go further, but this is all that i found.

 

makes sense. the more heat you have, the less energy is given off.

 

I don't think you quite understand. Your PERCEPTION of the HID system being
"brighter" than stock G35 is due to the excessive glare you are putting out
with your HID retrofit kit on your Accord. Or perhaps the reflector design
on the Accord is simply much better than the reflector design on the G35.

You posted up a nice little chart of the color temperatures, but did you
even bother looking at the actual technical specifications (white papers)
from that autolamps-online site I posted previously? You can see for
yourself, the actual specifications on the 4300K and 6000K HID bulbs
from Philips, the manufacturer themselves. The difference in actual
lumen output is drastic. 6000K HID bulbs puts out HALF as much light
as the standard 4300K bulbs.

Your friend with the Integra who also installed an aftermarket retrofit kit
is probably putting out intense glare, blinding oncoming traffic. The
10,000K color temperature might look "neat", but it will get you in trouble
with the law for sure (unless you live in a rural area). And the actual
light thrown on the ground is much less than the standard 4300K HID bulb.

Cliff notes: Color temperature != Actual light output

 

Yes, you're right. Projector lights have a much cleaner cut-off, whereas
reflectors dispurse the light in a broad area. I tend to think that projectors
are much better than reflectors as well. One drive behind the wheel of my
friend's EVO and I was amazed at how bright his stock projector HID's were.
By the way, EVO's stock projectors also give off the exact same purplish
tint that BMW's and Porsche's give off.

But let's compare reflectors with reflectors. Why is it that the IS300's
reflectors seem to throw off much more light compared to the G35's?
IS300's stock HID's also look more purplish. I guess Nissan just went
with a cheap/bad manufacturer when they shopped for headlights.

 

Sorry bud, but your wrong. It appears brighter because our eyes are MORE sensitive to higher kelvin temperatures (wavelength). Bluer light appears brighter because of the color cones in our eyes, but in reality the lumen output is lower.

This link I also explained why our G35 headlamps are not that good.

https://g35driver.com/forums/lighting/44012-hid-fog-too-narrrow.html

 

i stand cprrected. that would probably explain the reason why im no doctor. Either way, I still like the 10,000K my buddy has.

 

I believe it may partially have to do with the manufacturer of the hardware. In lighting circles, it is generally accepted that the Phillips/Osram HID components are the best available. Reliability and output seem to be superior. The G35's (and all Nissan products) use HID components sourced from M-a-t-u-s-h-i-t-a (sorry, the swear filter was taking that out) which are quite a bit less expensive. I recently had a minor accident in which one of my headlight housing was damaged. List price was still under $900.00. The Housings we sell for Porsche and MB vehicles can push their way to the $2K range in some cases. It is simply a matter of less initial investment by the manufacturer into vendor sourced parts to keep overall costs down.

 

Well there we have it then. Nissan chose to go with cheaper headlight
components, and thus the poor design/light output.

Has anyone removed their stock HID bulbs before? They should be from
Philips, I'd imagine, despite the headlight housing and ballast from Matus.
If they are, in fact, NOT from Philips, then maybe just switching to regular
4300K Philips bulbs would have an effect?

If I remember correctly, Lexus uses Kyoto light components. They seem to
be pretty good. The EVO, S2000, etc use Stanley projectors.

If any aftermarket companies ever made a projector headlight for the G35,
I'd be the first in line to buy one. Who knows, it might actually be higher
quality than the stock headlights!

By the way, Matush-i-ta is the same company as Panasonic, no? I used
to have a Matush-i-ta CD-ROM.

 

its the houseing. my 2002 Maxima SE has brighter HID's than my G35. honda's have very good reflectors on thier systems. my friends TL-S is a bit brighter than my Maxima's.

 

I wonder if it has anything to do with the deep inset of the reflector inside the housing not allowing as much uninterrupted light to hit the road.

 

With only the headlights on, it does seem a little dimmer than others cars. But I've been using my foglights (HID) so no complain about night time. I also believe that its the reflector problem, because I'm using all 4 of the bulbs @ 8000k but the head light slightly (close up) amberish still. Not dif. from 3 feet away thou. You can check mine to see how much its look the same. :-)

 

I agree the G's headlamps pattern is not distinctly defined compared to my old 2k2 maxima. Now after I have driven in my wifes s2k(That beam pattern is perfect and beautiful) then the Gs lights really seem to suck.

 

I don't know much about the technical part of HID's but I know my wife's '99 Acura TL puts out brighter light than the G. As well her lights are blueish when they first come on and take ten seconds or more to come up to full intensity and bright white. I don't really notice this pattern with the G.