Any lawyers in the house? - Need Advice - My dealership is ripping me off!
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Your situation isn't too bad, I wouldn't let it get to ya. Since you can buy a replacement wheel for only $150, I don't think you're in a very bad situation. If I were you, I'd buy the new wheel and get it over with, and then call up Acura of North America (if that's what they're called) and tell them about this dealership that gave you an awfully bad purchasing experience.
Originally Posted by RideOrDie
Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread...I really appreciate all your advice.
"Neffster" - Nothing would give me more satisfaction then going with Option #3, unfortunately a night in jail doesn't sound all that pleasing...but, thanks for the quick laugh.
"Sales" - I agree with you...I hate losing...espically to this dishonest A**hole...but, after reading "sliff's" post - it does become my word vs. the dealership and because they did attempt to repair it...I would probably lose...
I would love to picket there dealership...but, with a full-time day job and helping out my family's business week nights and weekends...I don't see myself having enough time to actually hurt there business...inadvertently, I would probably end up hurting myself...because I would have to picket during the times I normally nap between my day job and my night job.
Again, thanks for all your repsonses...but, i think this F'n A**hole won this round...man I still can't believe he's going to get away with this...arrrrgggg
"Neffster" - Nothing would give me more satisfaction then going with Option #3, unfortunately a night in jail doesn't sound all that pleasing...but, thanks for the quick laugh.
"Sales" - I agree with you...I hate losing...espically to this dishonest A**hole...but, after reading "sliff's" post - it does become my word vs. the dealership and because they did attempt to repair it...I would probably lose...
I would love to picket there dealership...but, with a full-time day job and helping out my family's business week nights and weekends...I don't see myself having enough time to actually hurt there business...inadvertently, I would probably end up hurting myself...because I would have to picket during the times I normally nap between my day job and my night job.
Again, thanks for all your repsonses...but, i think this F'n A**hole won this round...man I still can't believe he's going to get away with this...arrrrgggg
MrEllusive makes a good point about contacting Acura/Honda, and I would certainly do this -- but from my experience, not even a phone call to ask the dealership what happened would come of it.
Seems to me you're really stuck with replacing the rim yourself, but that doesn't mean you can't be a thorn in the side of this dealership. At this point I would switch over to "get even" mode, because that's going to be your only compensation. You mentioned you don't want legal problems (smart man btw -- wish I was that rational
) so throwing tires through windows and slashing tires isn't your cup of tea. Although I think it can be done with relatively low risk of getting caught, I understand. A guy on here posted about how his dealership ruined his rims and while they knew they were at fault refused to replace them. He ended up posting the story on every message board related to the G35. He really pissed them off, so much that they refused to deal with him anymore after they found out. In the end he's probably still got the old rims, but only because that dealership feels they were hurt, and now its just a pride issue. If you ask me, chalk that one up as a win. What you don't see going on back home is that...
1) the owner of that dealership jumped the service managers *** ("Pull your head out of your *** -- do you see what kind of damage you've done to our image")
2) service manager getting his *** jumped some more

3) the loss of business the threads really created for the dealership
4) the overall embarassment the entire dealership is feeling.
As long as everytime that dealership hears or thinks my name, damaged rims, or shady business, and it's followed by "that little SOB - I wish I could just strangle him" I'd feel alright about the whole deal, and only then would I be able to go on with my losses. You come out learning, NEVER trust anyone, get it in writing. They come out learning, some battles just aren't worth it!
Incentally, the web is saturated with honda/acura forums, if you decide to travel this road, start here.
www.honda-acura.net
www.superhonda.com
Originally Posted by sales
... I personally refuse to lose...and at the very least to pacify myself (so I can sleep at night) I'd slash about a dozen tires on their lot just so I felt I evened things up a bit, of course thats after about 2 weeks of picketing & passing out flyers to all their potential buyers. ...
I just had an epiphany...
Call the Canadian version of the Better Business Bureau and open a claim against the dealership! Make sure to tell the dealership that you'll be going this route if they don't buy you a $150 new replacement wheel.
Ask them if $150 is worth them having to fill out all of the paperwork just to answer the "claim". Just might work.
BTW, the wheel through the window was just a joke...
Call the Canadian version of the Better Business Bureau and open a claim against the dealership! Make sure to tell the dealership that you'll be going this route if they don't buy you a $150 new replacement wheel.
Ask them if $150 is worth them having to fill out all of the paperwork just to answer the "claim". Just might work.

BTW, the wheel through the window was just a joke...
Originally Posted by neffster
I just had an epiphany...
Call the Canadian version of the Better Business Bureau and open a claim against the dealership! Make sure to tell the dealership that you'll be going this route if they don't buy you a $150 new replacement wheel.
Ask them if $150 is worth them having to fill out all of the paperwork just to answer the "claim". Just might work.
BTW, the wheel through the window was just a joke...
Call the Canadian version of the Better Business Bureau and open a claim against the dealership! Make sure to tell the dealership that you'll be going this route if they don't buy you a $150 new replacement wheel.
Ask them if $150 is worth them having to fill out all of the paperwork just to answer the "claim". Just might work.

BTW, the wheel through the window was just a joke...
Whoever posted the comment about corps having to be represented by a lawyer is wrong. In most states, parties in small claims court are not allowed to be respresented by a lawyer. The corp I worked for always sent a legal assistant. The filing fees are usually low and the amount in contention has a ceiling of $1000-2500 depending on the location. Time involved and the ability to enforce a judgment are usually the toughest hurdles. Given the facts, I'd say you have a reasonable chance of success so long as there are no requirements in your jurisdiction that such promises have to be in writing. This is all under U.S. laws, not sure how things work in Canada.
rideordie... that sucks... my last acura was purchased at acura sherway. i found their sales to be pretty good, but their service terrible. in all honesty i would just buy another rim... and if u don't care, drop the other crappy rim at their door just for principle's sake (and i mean literally right at their front enterance). u can also try contacting the apa (automobile protection agency). they have a 70$ membership (including all taxes) but they may be able to help. i would call them first and inquire if they can help u regarding your problem before u get the membership. here's their info:
www.apa.ca
2 Carlton St. suite 1319
Toronto, Ontario
M5B 1J3
Telephone: 416 204-1444
Fax: 416 204-1985
E-mail: apatoronto@apa.ca
Office Hours: Monday through Friday, 9:00 a.m. to 18:00 p.m.
best of luck.
ps: another option u can try is elecro-polishing all the rims. this will give a mirror-like-finish (looks exactly like chrome) on all 4 rims. here is a company contact we use:
www.electro-kleen.com
2355 Tedlo Street, Unit 7
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
L5A 3W7
Telephone: (905) 273-9808
Fax: (905) 273-5979
^^call them for a quote .
www.apa.ca
2 Carlton St. suite 1319
Toronto, Ontario
M5B 1J3
Telephone: 416 204-1444
Fax: 416 204-1985
E-mail: apatoronto@apa.ca
Office Hours: Monday through Friday, 9:00 a.m. to 18:00 p.m.
best of luck.
ps: another option u can try is elecro-polishing all the rims. this will give a mirror-like-finish (looks exactly like chrome) on all 4 rims. here is a company contact we use:
www.electro-kleen.com
2355 Tedlo Street, Unit 7
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
L5A 3W7
Telephone: (905) 273-9808
Fax: (905) 273-5979
^^call them for a quote .
So sorry for the delayed response to all you replies...but I just got out of JAIL
I decided to go with "neffsters" option #3, and tossed the rim right through the dealer window...apparently, they weren't too happy with me and tossed me in jail...hahaha jk...i'm mad, but not crazy...
Thanks for all your replies...I've just been too busy and haven't had anytime to view the forum.
Actually, my buddy gave me a good idea...he agree's there really isn't much I can do to get the dealer to replace the rim...so he suggested to buy a used rim off of ebay as many of you have suggested...and then use the extra rim as a full spare tire...
Oh wait I don't think I can do this because the tires are directional...so, if I get a flat on wrong side I probably won't be able to put the rim on, right?
Oh well looks like i'm gonna have to giive "electro-kleen" a quick call...thanks for the contact "giddyup69".
I decided to go with "neffsters" option #3, and tossed the rim right through the dealer window...apparently, they weren't too happy with me and tossed me in jail...hahaha jk...i'm mad, but not crazy...
Thanks for all your replies...I've just been too busy and haven't had anytime to view the forum.
Actually, my buddy gave me a good idea...he agree's there really isn't much I can do to get the dealer to replace the rim...so he suggested to buy a used rim off of ebay as many of you have suggested...and then use the extra rim as a full spare tire...
Oh wait I don't think I can do this because the tires are directional...so, if I get a flat on wrong side I probably won't be able to put the rim on, right?
Oh well looks like i'm gonna have to giive "electro-kleen" a quick call...thanks for the contact "giddyup69".
Originally Posted by sales
All these responses about chalking it up and making it a learning experience are just sad. Bull**** -- let someone else learn from it. I'll agree that spending $1000 in court fees for a $200 wheel isn't very bright, but bending over and letting someone stick it to me has never set well with me either. I personally refuse to lose...and at the very least to pacify myself (so I can sleep at night) I'd slash about a dozen tires on their lot just so I felt I evened things up a bit, of course thats after about 2 weeks of picketing & passing out flyers to all their potential buyers. I'm dedicated enough to actually do this - I realize most people aren't.
prepares to be lectured about maturity 
prepares to be lectured about maturity 
Originally Posted by G35Unit__
I guess if you don't have to work or have nother better to do on weekends than standing around passing out flyers for a measley $200, then by all means go ahead. If you REALLY REALLY need to do something to make yourself feel better at night, just drive by the dealership at night and chuck a few eggs or whatever. But in all practicality, his $200 is gone.
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