The new Road and Track has 5 mustangs one stock gt....and the rest modified......the only mustang that was faster than the stock one cost $147,000.

one modified mustang had 440hp and 400lbs of torque.....it was slower than the stock gt 0-60 5.2....1/4 13.6......

Also Car and Driver tested the 350z with 300hp.....0-60 5.8 AND 1/4 14.3...dON'T BE SURPRISED IF 05 G35 TEST SLOWER THAN O4'S!

Now i'm scared to make another mod....dyno don't mean *****....in the end all that matters is speed...

 

Um who cares about the actual speed, Isnt HP and your mods all about my dick is bigger than yours?

 

you can say dick on the forum!!!???

 

Yeh, pwr/weight and where the max power is produced in the rpm range is what matters.

Reasons the extra ponies didnt help:

-Traction problems
-Added weight
-Power was added high in the rpm band (less noticeable)
-Bad driver

 

i find that almost unbelievable....why would nissan make an "anniversary edition", market it with "more" hp and power, and have it actually slower than the previous 287 hp 350z's? that would be a serious marketing blunder. you would think that the developers would access if the increase in hp would increase performance. if it does not, would just being able to advertise 300 hp be a good move if it's actually slower? previous car and driver mags report the 03 350z running at 5.4 sec 0-60. that's a serious downgrade if true.

 

If HP don't matter to u go get a 92 HP Hyndai Accent

 

Like many have said, you have look at the area under the power curve. Gaining 20hp on the top 1000rpm while losing 15hp for the bottom 6000rpm might not yield the best results on the track. I still think 05s are faster than 03-04, but we will never know for sure.

 

some people will believe anything they tell you in magazines...

 

Most of the time, it's a traction issue. You may have huge horsepower and torque, but if you're just spinning the wheels, you're not going anywhere.

 

The people who spent the money on the mods....would like to believe it was money well spent...but when you spend 10-20k on a car in mods and the hurt perfomance...you can help but notice.

The 350z haz been tested by MT RT and now CD....Steve Millen him self took part in the MT testing...he was not happy with the way the car performed....that car has perfomed consistantly worse than its predecessors...

Project 350z made 336 rwhp with its vortech SC....0-60 5.6....1/4 mile 13.7.....This shouldn't be dismissed as magazine misnomer....the message should be loud and clear....when the experienced engineers and hot shot tuners....can't get solid returns(performance) on their investment.....a flag should go up....the only thing consistant about dyno runs are their inconisistancy....

I am thoughly researching this because I wanted to spend my 10k on speed mods...I'm not rich...If I drop 10k....I want a significantly faster car.....dyno numbers are nice...but if 0-60 times and 1/4 times don't mirror the dyno #'s....then its not worth it.

 

There is a lot here that makes people wonder. I own a 2004& 2005 6mt. Both are great cars and IM very happy with both. This I can say I hate 1st gear in both. I hate the tires that came on the 05. The 2005 6mt has so much more power in each gear I know its been upgraded from the 2004 6mt. In a racing condition a good set of tires and a good driver could be the differences. IM still learning with the mods on my 2005 6mt. Its is going in the right direction and I will do a dyno soon. The bridgestones tires suck I do like the toyo's
Big change IM my mind.

 

Glad to hear from someone that drives them side by side! You say the "2005 6mt has so much more power", can you attach a perspecitve to that? Do you really notice that your 05 is "so much faster" than your 04? Just picking your brain!

 

True story... I rode in Gspot35's Vortec S/C'd sedan and we raced an early 2000 model year corvette. He smoked it in his G35 Sedan. He did not spent $10,000 and he smoked the vette, and for the record the vette was clearly racing him because when the 2 lanes merged into one Craig slowed down and the vette was all over Craigs butt when we slowed down.

The problem is the initiall traction when you're at a stand still. If you're at a roll of 5-10 mph, you can still get major acceleration and not spin the tires too badly with FI on the G35. It's the dumping of the clutch from a dead stop (with steel belted radials) with the additoinal 100rwhp that's killing all of the 1/4 mile times.

 

Did the article say anything about the weight? sometimes, when you mod, you may actually add weight to the car and slow it down [and maybe even redistribute weight in the wrong places?]...mods such as bigger rotors, bigger calipers, etc. Also...larger wheels = more weight, accompanied by horrible tires = slower? also, was it the same driver that tested all 5 of them? another thing to consider is what these cars were modified for...ie- drag, autocross, road race? different set ups competing for the 1/4 or 0-60 isnt really worth testing..a road race car probably doesnt care too much about his 0-60 time...

i think a better way to determine if a car is faster would be to place the same tires on all cars...that is a significant advantage for a car. Some people will actually go out and buy a car because the magazine said it was quicker...why? maybe because the other car comes with horrible all/no seasons...when all they had to do was buy the competition and put on a decent set of rubber...just my $0.02

 

Gearing also plays a major role in 1/4 mile times...