which one u thinks is better, my boss's 05 carrrera S is $115,000 0-60 4.2sec(check out the $8000 brakes) or my 05 G35 $43,000 almost 3x less, p.s.sometime i get to drive both

 

I really like both cars. carrera s more powerful and sexier but i like the G35 cause it's my car

 

Ferrari F430 Spyder, I wouldn't spend over $100k on a Porsche short of the GT.

 

The Porsche is sweet and close up you can really appreciate the workmanship.

But, I hate those wheels and the yellow calipers. The G holds its own in those pictures.

The headlight glass also looks a bit clearer on the Porshce. For some reason this large area of headlight glass on the G looks just a tad plasticy and cheap.

 

Porsches are and always will be ugly... except the Carrera GT of course, since it looks nothing like a Porsche.

 

No comparison. I'd take the Porsche any day of the week.

I love the way porsches drive, especially the 997.

 

agreed. If it were a ferrari on the other hand...
Also, PCCB isn't very cost effective for tracking the car.. most Porsche owners switch to traditional rotors as they cannot pay $8k every few track sessions i dont blame them.

 

As an everyday car i would definetly choose the porsche. Also ferraris are way more expensive to maintain and best thing i love about porsches is shifting gears
is so freaking smooth.

 

can u explain this one? normal wear on these things is rated at 160,000 miles or more. i've heard nothing but complaints on this forum from people ranting that the hailed brembo's are failing as soon as 15,000 miles. i'll put my money on the pccb's. then again, if u can afford a porsche in the first place and opt for these brakes... u shouldn't have any problems servicing the vehicle in the first place.

 

j00 lose. P-car all the way.

 

sure, the brakes probably work as advertised if you dont track the car (i'm referring to 911s w/ PCCB). But if you track the car the rotors are very prone to cracking. Cracking tends to begin on the inside edges of the rotor and gets progressively worse. If you kept driving on them they would fail in a very literal sense.

im not sure what you're talking about brembos failing in G35s. I don't know anything about this People complain about noise in them, and dust, but I don't know of any failing. I do know the 04 NONbrembos were prone to premature wear and are covered by warranty though.

I guess you cant have your cake and eat it too. E60/E63 M5/M6 buyers are complaining about their brake calipers. Some say that their brake design will be quieter, but they as a group seem willing to trade noise for performance.

Interestingly enough, Porsche does not outsource the entire brake system to brembo. I believe they make some of the components in house...
Also, from what I gather, race teams that use drilled rotors benefit from cooling and bite, but they replace them often.

edit- As far as affording a porsche and the brakes goes.. the amount of money you have isnt what really matters. It's really what you feel comfortable spending and what the value is to you. I think most would agree, that spending around $10k (give or take) a couple times a year in brakes on a 911 Carrera is a little excessive...

I mean, that's like saying that if you drive a G35 (half the cost of the 911), you can afford to pay $5k a couple times a year in brakes. You might be able to afford it, but would you really want to? Some might, but i would bet that most would be satisfied with 'normal' brakes and upgraded lines, pads, and fluid.

 

I think the Porsche is absolutely beautiful - a work of art.

I love my G and think it definitely holds it's own in those pictures, but I would take that German rocket any day of the week.

 

Sorry man, not really a fair comparison....I'd have to go with the carrera S

 

sorry... i still don't understand u. the pccb's are found on the carrera gt and high end 911's as standard equipment but u claim they suck for the track? makes no sense to me. your right on another note though... when i said 'failing' i was talking about wear and tear on the pads... same for the pccb's. should have been more clear though. also, the 8k u pay for the pccb's is for the entire brake upgrade... not the pads. i'll still back-up the claim of the pccb's out-performing any other brakes out there. post some actual evidence that you have showing these braking systems cracking/failing, otherwise no point in arguing anymore on either side. (i'm not here to start thread fights... sorry if i've done that). cheers .

 

$115k for a non-turbo porsche? Not worth it. I'd rather pickup a 2002 turbo for like $70k-$80k and mod the hell out of it.