Car Care (Zaino / California Car Duster)
#31
Originally Posted by GT-Ron
So for those of you who Zaino'd right after taking delivery of your G, did you still clay bar first or did you just wash with Dawn?
Originally Posted by g35driver05
After you apply zaino. HOw often do u wash your car? and do you need to reply teh zaino after each carwash or no?
The first 6 weeks or so, I gave it a coat of Z5, Z6, and Z2 after each wash. Once I'd done that 6 times, I backed off and started simply using Z6 detailing spray after each wash. On average, I'd say I do 3 wash/Z6, and 1 wash/Z5,Z6,Z2,Z6 per month.
After a wash, I generally use a cali car duster each morning until it rains - can't dust a wet car.
--Viral
#32
Originally Posted by B33R
The CA water blade is win.
Last edited by KAHBOOM; 06-23-2005 at 03:04 PM.
#33
I've had my G for about 9 months now and used Zaino for about 8 of that. I did a lazy clay treatment in the beginning and was happy. I had some water spot build-up and swirls related to the CA duster and cheap MF towels so, this last weekend, I did a complete strip down with a couple Dawn washes, and a VERY thorough clay barring. At that point, rinsing would yield not a single water bead, just a uniformly wet car. I got 3 coats of Z-5 on with Z-6 in between, finished with Z-8 before it got dark. The result is truly phenomenal. I have Twilight Blue, which I never realized had such depth. Looking straight on it looks like one of those 3-D posters you used to see at the mall, where you kind of have to cross your eyes, losing your sense of depth perception. A picture simply would not do it justice. The point is, yes, at this stage of things, clay the hell out of it and make sure to start with the cleanest, smoothest paint possible. You will be tired, but you will not regret it.
#34
I'm anti-waterblade and anti-chamois. It isn't just the Zaino folks that recommend not using these. The logic is not that either can damage your paint by themselves, but that they leave nearly zero room for error, meaning if a dust particle or fine grain of sand is blown on and sticks to your car, you will trap it with one of these products, and drag it under pressure across the surface of your car. What is recommended is a high quality 100% cotton towel, and not the cheap ones. The high pile allows any picked up particles to be lodged away from the paint. Since the loops are larger than most particles, they help to keep contact pressure down should a particle find it's way between you and the paint. I have found through experience what Zaino says about microfiber: There is a HUGE difference between good and bad towels and it is very hard to tell what you have in your hand. I caught a pretty good case of the swirls from some Pep-Boys MF towels. I know, you get what you pay for, but that rule is no longer safe enough for me. Only 100% cotton is touching my paint from now on.
I also took a tip from my local Zaino dist. for drying. After the spot-free rinse at the local DIY wash (Or Mr.C Auto-Dry if you prefer), I go over the car top to bottom and all seams with an electric leaf-blower ($39.99 well spent). Just make sure you hose the surounding area down so as not to suck in dust and sand-blast the car. If you already have Zaino on the car, you can just about dry the whole thing in a few minutes. Finish with a small cotton towel, Z-6 and done. It's great for the side view mirrors which seem to drip for hours after a wash.
I also took a tip from my local Zaino dist. for drying. After the spot-free rinse at the local DIY wash (Or Mr.C Auto-Dry if you prefer), I go over the car top to bottom and all seams with an electric leaf-blower ($39.99 well spent). Just make sure you hose the surounding area down so as not to suck in dust and sand-blast the car. If you already have Zaino on the car, you can just about dry the whole thing in a few minutes. Finish with a small cotton towel, Z-6 and done. It's great for the side view mirrors which seem to drip for hours after a wash.
#35
Hey Gs, I know you're suppose to wash the car before claying - I did that, and then layered with Z1, Z5, and Z2.
I then realize that I was still getting some "bumps" and I want to clay all over again. Do I have to wash with Dawn again or can I just spray the thing and clay now? Has the Zaino "sealed" the contaminants in? (My car has been in the garage all this time, so no dust and crap yet). Thanks!
I then realize that I was still getting some "bumps" and I want to clay all over again. Do I have to wash with Dawn again or can I just spray the thing and clay now? Has the Zaino "sealed" the contaminants in? (My car has been in the garage all this time, so no dust and crap yet). Thanks!
#36
Originally Posted by Viral
Same here. I use Zaino on my black G and it's as slick and wet looking as oil. Then I use a cali car duster every morning - until it rains and leaves water spots. Then it's time to wash again.
I do the exact same thing except I use the Duster every evening when I get home from work.
#37
Originally Posted by D87
Hey Gs, I know you're suppose to wash the car before claying - I did that, and then layered with Z1, Z5, and Z2.
I then realize that I was still getting some "bumps" and I want to clay all over again. Do I have to wash with Dawn again or can I just spray the thing and clay now? Has the Zaino "sealed" the contaminants in? (My car has been in the garage all this time, so no dust and crap yet). Thanks!
I then realize that I was still getting some "bumps" and I want to clay all over again. Do I have to wash with Dawn again or can I just spray the thing and clay now? Has the Zaino "sealed" the contaminants in? (My car has been in the garage all this time, so no dust and crap yet). Thanks!
Depending on the type and size of the imperfection, the Zaino may "seal" it in. For larger "Bumps", the Zaino will build up around the bump, trying to make it smooth, even though the bump is much larger than a coat of Zaino. The result is, the bondline between the bump and your paint is very effectively sealed with Zaino, making it even more difficult to remove. Getting rid of or reducing the Zaino first will improve the removing of these types of bumps by clay. Good luck!
#38
Originally Posted by Macgyver
Depending on the type and size of the imperfection, the Zaino may "seal" it in. For larger "Bumps", the Zaino will build up around the bump, trying to make it smooth, even though the bump is much larger than a coat of Zaino. The result is, the bondline between the bump and your paint is very effectively sealed with Zaino, making it even more difficult to remove. Getting rid of or reducing the Zaino first will improve the removing of these types of bumps by clay. Good luck!
#39
On dark cars, cotton towels work fine if you are going to buff the car afterwards either by hand or using a machine) or if it is not humid outside- my area of the country is often humid. If not you will leave streaks after it gets fully saturated. A chamois is soft enough that you will run a low risk of permanent scratches when using it. Any particles of dust heavy enough to cause such scratches should be noticed before drying.
#41
#42
Originally Posted by Macgyver
I'm anti-waterblade and anti-chamois. It isn't just the Zaino folks that recommend not using these. The logic is not that either can damage your paint by themselves, but that they leave nearly zero room for error, meaning if a dust particle or fine grain of sand is blown on and sticks to your car, you will trap it with one of these products, and drag it under pressure across the surface of your car. What is recommended is a high quality 100% cotton towel, and not the cheap ones. The high pile allows any picked up particles to be lodged away from the paint. Since the loops are larger than most particles, they help to keep contact pressure down should a particle find it's way between you and the paint. I have found through experience what Zaino says about microfiber: There is a HUGE difference between good and bad towels and it is very hard to tell what you have in your hand. I caught a pretty good case of the swirls from some Pep-Boys MF towels. I know, you get what you pay for, but that rule is no longer safe enough for me. Only 100% cotton is touching my paint from now on.
I also took a tip from my local Zaino dist. for drying. After the spot-free rinse at the local DIY wash (Or Mr.C Auto-Dry if you prefer), I go over the car top to bottom and all seams with an electric leaf-blower ($39.99 well spent). Just make sure you hose the surounding area down so as not to suck in dust and sand-blast the car. If you already have Zaino on the car, you can just about dry the whole thing in a few minutes. Finish with a small cotton towel, Z-6 and done. It's great for the side view mirrors which seem to drip for hours after a wash.
I also took a tip from my local Zaino dist. for drying. After the spot-free rinse at the local DIY wash (Or Mr.C Auto-Dry if you prefer), I go over the car top to bottom and all seams with an electric leaf-blower ($39.99 well spent). Just make sure you hose the surounding area down so as not to suck in dust and sand-blast the car. If you already have Zaino on the car, you can just about dry the whole thing in a few minutes. Finish with a small cotton towel, Z-6 and done. It's great for the side view mirrors which seem to drip for hours after a wash.
Check out http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-dwdt-2.html for drying &
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/mf-cbt.html that for removing wax/polish
I have bought the best cotton towels made, both here in the US & from over seas, never once found a towel that did not scratch. (did this while I was looking for metal polishing towels for my Metal Polishing / Powder Coating business) Look over some other towels on that site & read some reviews in the forum. I use the 2 above & they are the best money can buy at this point.
PS. Micro Fiber towels in retail auto stores come from China & are crap! I wouldn't wipe my A$$ with them. Good luck
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