Twin Turbo or Supercharger?
#16
So as far as superchargers go, which brand (and what stage) should I go for (if I don't want to get a new hood)? Also, what additional parts should be purchased to support the new supercharger? From what I've seen and heard, it would be better if several other fittings and parts were changed to better parts when installing the supercharger.
#18
http://www.panhandlez.com/videos/satracing2.wmv
Here is a video of the Vortech SC, Turbonetics ST and APS TT in action.
Information on the Vortech:
It is now CARB LEGAL!!!
Vortech 350Z/G35 EO#D-213-22
The average numbers out of the box:
HP: 375 TQ: 325
I've seen up to:
HP: 420+ TQ: 340+
If you dig around a little more, I think there are some higher numbers but it escapes me now.
It is extremely safe. There wasn't an incident of a blown engine due to this system. If you want more power, a better route would be the single turbo.
Kit Features:
First Version:
V-2 SQ CCW Rotation SC-Trim Head Unit
6-rib 3.33” Pulley and Secondary Cog Drive (32T/28T) produces 8psi at 6500 RPM
Air-to-Air Intercooler with Aluminum Discharge Tubes
Maxflow Race By-Pass Valve
Piggy-back Ignition Timing Control Computer
Larger Fuel Pump Assembly and FMU
Billet Mounting Plate
Supercharger drive system includes all Belts and Pulleys
Re-useable High Flow Air Filter
Oil Drain and Oil Feed Assemblies allows for maintenance free operation
MSRP: $4800
Second Version: (Tuner Kit)
**NOTE: Tuner Kits are incomplete kits, which will need tuning accessories (Fuel Pump, Fuel Management, Stand alone or custom CPU.)
Kit Features:
V-2 SQ CCW Rotation SC-Trim Head Unit
6-rib 3.33” Pulley and Secondary Cog Drive (32T/28T) produces 8psi at 6500 RPM
Air-to-Air Intercooler with Aluminum Discharge Tubes
Maxflow Race By-Pass Valve
Billet Mounting Plate
Supercharger drive system includes all Belts and Pulleys
Re-useable High Flow Air Filter
Oil Drain and Oil Feed Assemblies allows for maintenance free operation
MSRP: $3549
KNOWN VORTECH ISSUES
FMU - In some cases, the Vortech kit FMU seizes up. This happens when residue from gas builds up on the washer valve inside the FMU. The result is the washer sticking creating a pressure build up in the fuel line than can pop the fuel line off one of its fittings. Fix is to buy the rebuild kit for the FMU (around $39). Mine did this around 6K miles. Others have done this, but I don't know the mileage. Preemptive solution could be to add fuel additive or high octane gas occasionally. Since I've started this more regularly, the problem has not reoccured.
Belts - Serpentine belt on Vortech tends to "loosen" over time. To keep a good snug fit, a new belt may have to be adjusted 3 or 4 times to ensure there is no belt slippage.
Information on the Turbonetics Single Turbo Kit:
The average numbers out of the box:
HP: 375 TQ: 355 @ 8 psi
Turbo included with the kit is good to about 650 RWHP at roughly 18-20 PSI.
Kit Features:
Turbonetics 60-1 Stage V ceramic ball bearing turbo
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
Turbonetics Evolution external wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow off valve
380 CC drop in/plug in injectors
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
Modified stock FPR
Turbonetics custom tuned ECU flash
All stainless steel polished mandrel bent exhaust piping
All aluminum mandrel bent powder coated black chrome intake piping
All piping utilizes v band clamps
A case of Turbonetics synthetic TS-1 oil
12 month/12,000 mile no fault no hassle warranty on EVERY part of the kit
Power output of 386 RWHP at 8 PSI.
AFR of 11.5:1 from boost to redline
MSRP: $5,570
Second version is all of the above plus a High Flow cat on the turbo downpipe
Third version: (Tuner version)
Turbonetics 60-1 Stage V ceramic ball bearing turbo
Turbonetics Evolution external wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve
Spearco front Mount intercooler
All stainless steel polished mandrel bent exhaust piping
All aluminum mandrel bent powder coated black chrome intake piping
All piping utilizes v band clamps
A case of Turbonetics synthetic TS-1 oil
12 month/12,000 mile no fault no hassle warranty on EVERY part of the kit
KNOWN TURBONETICS ISSUES:
A lot people are experiencing trouble with the reflash. Can't seem to get the A/F smoothly across the chart.
Aftermarket headers HAS to have the outlet flange in the stock location.
Must use either a y pipe back exhaust (Apexi, Tanabe, Fujitsobo, etc) or a modified dual.
Will post more information later on the other kits. Too lazy now
Here is a video of the Vortech SC, Turbonetics ST and APS TT in action.
Information on the Vortech:
It is now CARB LEGAL!!!
Vortech 350Z/G35 EO#D-213-22
The average numbers out of the box:
HP: 375 TQ: 325
I've seen up to:
HP: 420+ TQ: 340+
If you dig around a little more, I think there are some higher numbers but it escapes me now.
It is extremely safe. There wasn't an incident of a blown engine due to this system. If you want more power, a better route would be the single turbo.
Kit Features:
First Version:
V-2 SQ CCW Rotation SC-Trim Head Unit
6-rib 3.33” Pulley and Secondary Cog Drive (32T/28T) produces 8psi at 6500 RPM
Air-to-Air Intercooler with Aluminum Discharge Tubes
Maxflow Race By-Pass Valve
Piggy-back Ignition Timing Control Computer
Larger Fuel Pump Assembly and FMU
Billet Mounting Plate
Supercharger drive system includes all Belts and Pulleys
Re-useable High Flow Air Filter
Oil Drain and Oil Feed Assemblies allows for maintenance free operation
MSRP: $4800
Second Version: (Tuner Kit)
**NOTE: Tuner Kits are incomplete kits, which will need tuning accessories (Fuel Pump, Fuel Management, Stand alone or custom CPU.)
Kit Features:
V-2 SQ CCW Rotation SC-Trim Head Unit
6-rib 3.33” Pulley and Secondary Cog Drive (32T/28T) produces 8psi at 6500 RPM
Air-to-Air Intercooler with Aluminum Discharge Tubes
Maxflow Race By-Pass Valve
Billet Mounting Plate
Supercharger drive system includes all Belts and Pulleys
Re-useable High Flow Air Filter
Oil Drain and Oil Feed Assemblies allows for maintenance free operation
MSRP: $3549
KNOWN VORTECH ISSUES
FMU - In some cases, the Vortech kit FMU seizes up. This happens when residue from gas builds up on the washer valve inside the FMU. The result is the washer sticking creating a pressure build up in the fuel line than can pop the fuel line off one of its fittings. Fix is to buy the rebuild kit for the FMU (around $39). Mine did this around 6K miles. Others have done this, but I don't know the mileage. Preemptive solution could be to add fuel additive or high octane gas occasionally. Since I've started this more regularly, the problem has not reoccured.
Belts - Serpentine belt on Vortech tends to "loosen" over time. To keep a good snug fit, a new belt may have to be adjusted 3 or 4 times to ensure there is no belt slippage.
Information on the Turbonetics Single Turbo Kit:
The average numbers out of the box:
HP: 375 TQ: 355 @ 8 psi
Turbo included with the kit is good to about 650 RWHP at roughly 18-20 PSI.
Kit Features:
Turbonetics 60-1 Stage V ceramic ball bearing turbo
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
Turbonetics Evolution external wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow off valve
380 CC drop in/plug in injectors
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
Modified stock FPR
Turbonetics custom tuned ECU flash
All stainless steel polished mandrel bent exhaust piping
All aluminum mandrel bent powder coated black chrome intake piping
All piping utilizes v band clamps
A case of Turbonetics synthetic TS-1 oil
12 month/12,000 mile no fault no hassle warranty on EVERY part of the kit
Power output of 386 RWHP at 8 PSI.
AFR of 11.5:1 from boost to redline
MSRP: $5,570
Second version is all of the above plus a High Flow cat on the turbo downpipe
Third version: (Tuner version)
Turbonetics 60-1 Stage V ceramic ball bearing turbo
Turbonetics Evolution external wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve
Spearco front Mount intercooler
All stainless steel polished mandrel bent exhaust piping
All aluminum mandrel bent powder coated black chrome intake piping
All piping utilizes v band clamps
A case of Turbonetics synthetic TS-1 oil
12 month/12,000 mile no fault no hassle warranty on EVERY part of the kit
KNOWN TURBONETICS ISSUES:
A lot people are experiencing trouble with the reflash. Can't seem to get the A/F smoothly across the chart.
Aftermarket headers HAS to have the outlet flange in the stock location.
Must use either a y pipe back exhaust (Apexi, Tanabe, Fujitsobo, etc) or a modified dual.
Will post more information later on the other kits. Too lazy now
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