Well add these to your urban legends budy


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I'm only trying to help buyers understand the sales pitch bull**** and help other G35 owners that have problems with the car...

If this does not apply to you, great! I love the G35, still do but this problem is not an attack on the car... stop taking stuff so personal...

BMW M3 owners have engine problems, nobody jumps on em if one guys says he has issues... if it does not apply to you, disregard it...

Forums are sources of information... How the hell do you think you know so much about your car? 350Z owners would just be spending money on tires if it was not for forums...

 

I dunno... It sounds like you did not spend enough time in the car before you bought it. Sorry dude

 

well then the car was not right for your back before you bought it.

Hell I dont even recall you taking it for a test drive.

Its you who is to blame.

 

djinferno = biggest sucker on the face of the earth

 

Have to agree.

 

I see that djinferno is still whining about his car and the bad deal that HE made. HE should be pissed at himself and not the car. HE caved to the salesman. HE took an test drive that was inadequately short. HE agreed to buy the car without knowing the financial terms. HE made the stupid decisions, when just saying no at any point would have ended it. Now, we have to pay for it by wading through his posts. Get over it already.

 

Dude, it was a joke based on spreading the same post all over the internet. Everyone knows about the problems some folks have with the seats, Ski was just joking around.

 

He told me to jump off the bridge, I sware to you he did! He even threatened to kill me if I didn't! Dammit!

 

or maybe if we drag him for 100 miles behind an Evo.



(okay, maybe that was a little too much. Still funny tho..)

 

The time it takes to register, then post a gigantoid story.... on like.... every car forum on the internet.... wow. I want to have free time like that.

 

I had some concern at first, after reading people's complaints, so I went and sat in one while out of town (in a town with a dealership) to make sure I fit. It seemed a little snug, but I thought I could live with it.

Turns out, I am living with it just fine. I'd like a little more room in between the thigh bolsters and another inch for the shoulders would be very welcome... ...but as I stated before taking delivery, if it gets to a really bad point then I'll modify the seats or replace them. Anyone know if the sedan seats fit? I really like the way the coupe seats hug me and only wish for another inch of space here and there.

I think the biggest mistake was getting a car that didn't fit. My 6'1", 300lb shop owner sat in the seats and said he fit. At 6'1" and 200lb., I don't really buy it, since they're snug on me, but I have seen some big dudes driving this car. I belive this guy had back problems that weren't helped by these seats, but that should have been obvious after sitting in it the first time.

Regardless, I still find it ridiculous that he's so down on Infiniti for not helping him more. What are they supposed to do that's not going to penalize them for your mistake? A salesman can be an a-hole and all of that but that's a dealership's salesman, not Infiniti. Unless previously non-existent back problems start popping up among a ton of owners, all in the same location, it's not a problem with the seat. Sure, the design may not be accomodating to large people or it may aggrivate back problems (or cause them, in rare instances), but this is something that you should discover while looking at the car.

Is it the fault of Mazda if a person that's 6'3" and 225 lbs is too big to comfortably fit into a Miata? My old '03 Chevy Cavalier had seats with no lumbar support and were a POS, in general. My back killed me after a few hours of driving. Was this Chevy's fault for not producing the most ergonomical seat possible or was it my fault for not giving enough consideration to the support of the seats when buying it?

The argument isn't even really that the Infiniti seats are badly designed, it's only that most of us are too F'n big for them. This should be noticeable upon first sitting in the car. If you thought you'd could live with it, that was the choice you made.

 

I don't know, I think it has less to do with size than shape, or some other physical problems the driver might have had before he drove the car. I'm not a small guy and both my coupe and sedan fit me just fine. My brother in law is 6'4" and has to weigh over 300lbs and he drove my coupe from LA to Las Vegas and back just fine. I think djinferno just didn't do enough test driving before he purchased along with making a number of other mistakes (mistakes he has admitted) and is now on a one man campaign to, well, who knows what. I'd have more sympathy if I thought he was truly taken advantage of.

Maybe if you want your back to start feeling better you should lay off the hockey, djinferno.

 

Something like 40% of back problems in men is caused by sitting on a wallet. The other 58 is probably picking up **** that's too heavy. He probably just pinched a nerve.

Also.. he's a spineless little bitch. Giving into the slightest pressure from a sales guy. And then signing over his car before he got the new one. Who does that?

this whole story smacks of BS.

**EDIT** OMG this site edits swears eh.. are we 12?

 

Whether or not the seat is comfortable is subjective. Maybe it is uncomfortable to you, and no one can disprove that. But when you say that the car caused your "back gave in," that's hard to believe when....

You played hockey the week before buying the car:
"Saturday morning 10:00 AM after a hockey game with my coworkers, I decided to drop by Gwinnett Infiniti dealership to get some more information about the G35 coupe and grab a brochure."

You played hockey again after driving the car:
"The next day Saturday, I had hockey again next to the dealer, I brought the car back because for some reason the car steering wheel was not strait to me, angled."


In the other forum you talk about doing 300+ lbs deadlifts.

Are you saying that you can do all the twisting and lateral movements involved with hockey, along with deadlights, but when you sat in a car with the back essentially stationary, the act of sitting throws your back out? An uncomfortable seat can certainly aggravate a back problem. But unless you're a 70 year old woman with osteoporosis of the spine, your back injury most likely was the result of something other than sitting in a seat.

 

I don't know why everyone concentrates on the fact that I got the car under the terms I wanted... the fact is, I wanted the dam thing, now yes I did not test drive enought but trust me, from driving the car with the plastics still on the seats from delivery and thew sales person talking in my ear, i would of never noticed this even on a over night test drive, for the first week i was fine...

Call me spineless if you want to, i just don't get where your getting that from? I wanted it so I got it... My post is just to expose the sales tactics that certain dealers use... the fact that I got it is irrelevant... I would not get something that I don't want, I aint that rich!

Now the way I was treated and the way others where treated when they went to the dealer and Infiniti is outragious... I had Audis, Hondas, Mazdas and VW's in the past and the dealers and the Company was A+ in terms of standing behind there product, I go to Infiniti after a Week and they where talking like It was not there product.... I much rather lose 8000$ then to own a product of this magnitude where they don't stand behind it... What next... Service managers telling you that Infiniti is aware or back tires shreading because of negative camber? Calling it the cost of performance... yeah right!

This is the e-mail trail of A member on G35driver with Infiniti about the seat control problem:

> ---- Original Message ----
> From : infinititestbox@sapient.com
> To : NNAConsumerAffairs@nissan-usa.com
> Subject : I need help regarding my vehicle [INTR:162466]
> Date : Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:04:15 GMT
>
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> 2200
> I just recently purchased a 2004 G35. As I have driven the vehicle, it has become noticeable that the seat controls in the seat cushion exert pressure on my upper thigh to the point of it being painful if driving for any length of time. I asked the dealer rep. if there had been any complaints on this issue, and he said he had not heard of any, and he said that the 2005 model has the same design. I am surprised that this was not resolved with the new model year as there has got to be other owners with similar complaints. Currently, I drive 15 minutes each way to work, and as I am sitting here typing this, I can feel what feels like a bruise on my thigh from the pressure from sitting next to the controls. I am 6' 0" 185 pounds and would consider myself to be of average build. It would seem that there should be some kind of retrofit kit available to remedy this problem. Please advise.
> InfinitiContactUs

nnaconsumeraffairs@nissan-usa.com
01/25/2005 09:08 AM

To:
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Subject: Re: I need help regarding my vehicle [INTR:162466]


Blaine

Thank you for your correspondence to Infiniti. It is always a pleasure to hear from one of our customers who has taken the time to write and provide us with comments about their vehicle.

We are sorry to hear of the concerns you have regarding the design of your 2004 G35. Infiniti is committed to designing and building vehicles that incorporate our customers' needs for styling, performance, quality and safety.

Currently, there is no technical bulletin or kit available in regards to your seat control/cushion concern. We recommend contacting your local Infiniti dealer to review vehicle concerns which may be addressed under warranty.

Thank you again for writing and we wish you many carefree miles with your Infiniti G35.

Sincerely,

Alexander M.
Consumer Affairs Specialist
Infiniti Division


Alexander,

It doesn't appear that a claim against the warranty is a viable option for this problem as it is design related. My purpose in contacting Infiniti is to notify you of the problem hoping that this issue has been or will be addressed by the design team and a solution pursued. This may be something that is correctable for the current model year or a change in subsequent model years; or at the very least you could give directions on how the owners could remedy this problem on their own.

In further discussions with the dealer, they are at a loss as to what could be fixed warranty wise. The only thought that they could come up with, was if somehow the controls were assembled wrong at the factory; but this is not likely as the problem is a result of no padding in the seat area where instead there are the seat controls. In my opinion, this is a result of a paradigm shift to a bad idea. Seat cushions are for sitting, not for hard controls. Had I driven the vehicle for any length of time (longer than a test drive) before making the purchase, I would have chosen a different auto maker .

Blaine

Additionally, I have asked other dealers if they have had any complaints, and they deny that they have had any. Go figure.