Borla - Waste of $$$
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Borla - Waste of $$$
Hey guys, well I just had a chance to hear a G coupe with the new Borla exhuat. Driving into the city I met Mike, an owner of a Black G35 as well, who just last week picked up his Borla exhaust. He started up his G and to be quite honest, at first I thought he was BS'ing me becouse I hear NO diference in sound at start up. I had to even look under the car to make sure he actually had the system, and sure enough, the cheap *** borla tin can exhaust was there. After a few revs, a faint growl became noticable, but nothing to make you saw WOW! The ONLY time I was able to even tell he had something other than stock was after he drove off (showing off a little) and got the revs to above 5 grand. That's when it sounded a little more "higher noted", but once again I was not impressed at all.
The system also looks like it was put together at your local Meineke exhaust shop with borring non-polihsed piping and can. Plainly put, for $750 it just doesn't look and sound worth it! As for the HP gains, what do they claim 8 ponies?
I would rather invest $700 into a JET ECU upgrade and get twice the ponies and then slap on a B&B exhaust system. It may not be a dual system, but the system is nicer looking being fully polsihed, sounds like a true performance exhaust low and mean with just enough growl to make peoples head turn, and they claim to give ya more ponies than the Borla.
All in all, my 1st impression of the Borla system was not what I had expected! I'm glad I didn't jump on the band wagon and get one through that group buy.
Borla USE TO make really sweet systems, but they've been slacking off. I remember when Borla systems came polished, and lived up to there name in both performance, quality and sound. Now they can put together a $100 system, stamp there name on it, and wa-la everyone believes its a high-end performance system. Don't fall into the hype! I hate to rank on Borla, but they've become another "Name built" business. Its a shame to see Borla taking that route...
If anyone has a sound clip of the Borla, please post it, so everyone can hear it. Here's a sound clip of the B&B system on a Z....
http://www.bbexhaust.com/av/350z.html
Price wise its around $800....
The system also looks like it was put together at your local Meineke exhaust shop with borring non-polihsed piping and can. Plainly put, for $750 it just doesn't look and sound worth it! As for the HP gains, what do they claim 8 ponies?
I would rather invest $700 into a JET ECU upgrade and get twice the ponies and then slap on a B&B exhaust system. It may not be a dual system, but the system is nicer looking being fully polsihed, sounds like a true performance exhaust low and mean with just enough growl to make peoples head turn, and they claim to give ya more ponies than the Borla.
All in all, my 1st impression of the Borla system was not what I had expected! I'm glad I didn't jump on the band wagon and get one through that group buy.
Borla USE TO make really sweet systems, but they've been slacking off. I remember when Borla systems came polished, and lived up to there name in both performance, quality and sound. Now they can put together a $100 system, stamp there name on it, and wa-la everyone believes its a high-end performance system. Don't fall into the hype! I hate to rank on Borla, but they've become another "Name built" business. Its a shame to see Borla taking that route...
If anyone has a sound clip of the Borla, please post it, so everyone can hear it. Here's a sound clip of the B&B system on a Z....
http://www.bbexhaust.com/av/350z.html
Price wise its around $800....
Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
Thanks for your opinion, I'll give you mine when it gets here. Everyone has been saying the Borla needs to be broken in. He should give it about 500 miles before the true sound comes through. I will wait till then before making any judgments, but thanks for the depressing thread.
Luv My G
Luv My G
Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
I prefer stealth, so the "look at me" factor does not interest me. I also do not want a loud or droning exhuast. My interest is the performance increase. With that said, I'm awaiting the dyno shootout results and more opinions from people who have installed them on their cars--not from a mere bystander listening to the sound.
jjellyneck
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Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
Give this a listen and judge the sound for yourselve's.
Never mind the fact that the guy really can't shift, lol.
http://www.philter.com/~tsunami/borla4.mpg
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Kumho MX 245/40
350Z springs&struts
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<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by gsedanman on 08/02/03 04:33 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Never mind the fact that the guy really can't shift, lol.
http://www.philter.com/~tsunami/borla4.mpg
Ivry 6mt sed
Injen CAI, 22" resonator
8X18 Enkei RPM2 45mm
Kumho MX 245/40
350Z springs&struts
Crawford intake pleneum coming
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by gsedanman on 08/02/03 04:33 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
I agree, the B&B system does sound pretty sweet!! Thanks for the link
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Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
LMAO....Your killin me Ducati.....I used to like your threads! [img]/w3timages/icons/tongue.gif[/img] Seriously, to each his own I can't REALLY comment about any of the exhaust from a personal level as I have never seen them up close.........BUT, just by going on internet pictures I have to say I'm not feelin the look of the Stillen exhaust, B&B looks cool but I wasn't impressed with a sound clip I heard as it sounded very raspy, didn't like the looks of the Greddy exhaust....soooooo I guess I'll just have to ait and see.....worse case scenario is that I could always sell it locally if I don't like it....price was too good.
Oh, and it was a real/true exhaust as opposed to the poser B&B.
"Use the Forced Induction Luke!"
-Jedi
2003 G35C, 6MT, Navi, Black Obsidian/Graphite
Oh, and it was a real/true exhaust as opposed to the poser B&B.
"Use the Forced Induction Luke!"
-Jedi
2003 G35C, 6MT, Navi, Black Obsidian/Graphite
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Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
HKS Exhaust For the Coupe is in the Works. It should be out Real soon. I'm Waiting for That one to come out. I absolutely Love the HKS on My Dad's G-35 Sedan. Looks and Sounds 1st Class.
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Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
A test was done by nissanperformancemag on the B&B exhaust for the 350Z. Total gain in HP was like 4RWHP max on the dyno. Here is the link B&B Exhaust Dyno
Re: Borla - Waste of $$$
Well, you can't go wrong with the stillen exhaust. If you heard and drove a G with it you would completely understand! Just simply bad @ss!
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<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by ramborami on 08/04/03 12:40 PM.</EM></FONT></P>