Asked M45 Driver About, Rear Active Stear, And Whats Its All About, 05 Drivers Read!
Originally Posted by htownboy
Just being defensive after someone went on the offense by calling our Brembo's "Cheesy";
I understand that they'd want to advertise them and make them stick out, but how about a nice shiny black or a deep red?
Originally Posted by yacoub
Cynical opinion: The reason they sharpen the steering ratio when you get the rear-steer package is so you think it actually makes a difference in the feel of how it handles. It's really just the tighter steering ratio that you notice. The rear-steer alone was almost completely unnoticeable so they threw in the tighter steering ratio to help people think it was worth the money.


They also upgraded the system to speed sensitive power steering rather than just RPM sensitive power steering. You love it.
Given the issues with rear steering in the past, I'm sure Nissan wouldn't have brought it back without having good reason with more advanced algorithms attached. I read a Car and Driver review of the M45 with rear active steer and they seemed to love it.
Originally Posted by MechEE
So admittedly you have no clue. I can buy the advantages for even pad wear and pressure, and even some hint of better break feel as well, but fade is more a function of the temperature rise of the pad and rotor interface and its resulting change in braking properties.
"Fixed calipers with opposing pistons are on nice cars, so they must have less fade" is a pretty weak explanation.
"Fixed calipers with opposing pistons are on nice cars, so they must have less fade" is a pretty weak explanation.
I could present all the facts and you still would come back with some more of this stupid stuff... The best cars in the world have fixed calipers without RAS...
I've dealt with good oposition for years in these forums, there is no end until one of us quit and I am almost done. (maybe)
I personally like the RAS and would have the option if it was available in 04.
Last edited by htownboy; Dec 30, 2005 at 12:54 AM.
Originally Posted by MechEE
And I'm sorry, but the sparkly gold brake calipers ARE a bit cheesy.
I understand that they'd want to advertise them and make them stick out, but how about a nice shiny black or a deep red?
I understand that they'd want to advertise them and make them stick out, but how about a nice shiny black or a deep red?
Originally Posted by htownboy
Yeah, different colors would have been a great option, that is why I chose the Twighlight Blue, it matches the gold perfectly. BTW, you can't get the TB anymore either, so that makes my TB 6MT on Graphite, with premium pack a rare car so the residual value will be great in 08 when I trade it for the GTR (if it really makes it) and I bet it comes with RAS and Brembo's. If your still here, I'll post a picture for ya' 


I admit that the Brembo is a better brake. What I question is the real world performance difference on our cars.
Oh boy this thread still going on?
Let's hope that in the past 10 years BMW has improved their quality for the better. Honestly the car is nothing short of amazing and I love it more and more every day (and yes brake feel is much better than in my '05 G35
). I don't believe in the new iDrive gadgetry or the Bangalized BMW look, so I got the last timeless BMW design before Bangle took over and ruined everything for BMW. I owned a Maxima before that had its fair share of problems btw, but that didn't stop me from buying a G35.
Originally Posted by htownboy
One more thing man...
My 1995 M3 with only 41K miles started smoking and had a dashboard fire at a filling station way out on I10 in Arizona; if the station attendant would not have run out and extinguished the fire, im sure it would have burnt to the ground. I will NEVER own another BMW, they helped me with nothing and the car was bone stock, except for 4 new tires I purchased right before the trip.
I took a HUGE LOSS on that M3; good luck with yours.
My 1995 M3 with only 41K miles started smoking and had a dashboard fire at a filling station way out on I10 in Arizona; if the station attendant would not have run out and extinguished the fire, im sure it would have burnt to the ground. I will NEVER own another BMW, they helped me with nothing and the car was bone stock, except for 4 new tires I purchased right before the trip.
I took a HUGE LOSS on that M3; good luck with yours.

). I don't believe in the new iDrive gadgetry or the Bangalized BMW look, so I got the last timeless BMW design before Bangle took over and ruined everything for BMW. I owned a Maxima before that had its fair share of problems btw, but that didn't stop me from buying a G35.
Originally Posted by Finiti35
Oh boy this thread still going on?
Let's hope that in the past 10 years BMW has improved their quality for the better. Honestly the car is nothing short of amazing and I love it more and more every day (and yes brake feel is much better than in my '05 G35
). I don't believe in the new iDrive gadgetry or the Bangalized BMW look, so I got the last timeless BMW design before Bangle took over and ruined everything for BMW. I owned a Maxima before that had its fair share of problems btw, but that didn't stop me from buying a G35.
Let's hope that in the past 10 years BMW has improved their quality for the better. Honestly the car is nothing short of amazing and I love it more and more every day (and yes brake feel is much better than in my '05 G35
). I don't believe in the new iDrive gadgetry or the Bangalized BMW look, so I got the last timeless BMW design before Bangle took over and ruined everything for BMW. I owned a Maxima before that had its fair share of problems btw, but that didn't stop me from buying a G35.
I came up in the 300 ZX scene back in the day. People were disabling the HICAS (High Capacity Actively Controlled Steering) system left and right. It was evident who had disabled it by a visible Stillen plate beneath the rear suspension. There will be people disabling the rear active steering on their G's soon enough.
Another note ...replacement of the HICAS setup with the simple Stillen assembly resulted in a 50% weight savings over the HICAS system itself. It saved $$$ down the road too since it was freakin' EXPENSIVE to maintain the HICAS system.
Another note ...replacement of the HICAS setup with the simple Stillen assembly resulted in a 50% weight savings over the HICAS system itself. It saved $$$ down the road too since it was freakin' EXPENSIVE to maintain the HICAS system.
Originally Posted by kidtronix
I came up in the 300 ZX scene back in the day. People were disabling the HICAS (High Capacity Actively Controlled Steering) system left and right. It was evident who had disabled it by a visible Stillen plate beneath the rear suspension. There will be people disabling the rear active steering on their G's soon enough.
Another note ...replacement of the HICAS setup with the simple Stillen assembly resulted in a 50% weight savings over the HICAS system itself. It saved $$$ down the road too since it was freakin' EXPENSIVE to maintain the HICAS system.
Another note ...replacement of the HICAS setup with the simple Stillen assembly resulted in a 50% weight savings over the HICAS system itself. It saved $$$ down the road too since it was freakin' EXPENSIVE to maintain the HICAS system.
Originally Posted by MechEE
There's just a single electric motor on a steering rack in the back for the RAS, so I doubt it will be much to maintain.
Originally Posted by kidtronix
Yes, but there is a lot of torque demanded of the motor to alter the wheel's toe for the RAS to work. Motors last a while, but never as long as you'd like them to!
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