There seem to be so many grounding wire packages out there - stillen, nismo, gordgee, z-extreme, etc.. etc... - yet are there really going to be any differences in them (other than gordgee seems to be the only 1 to offer a 10-wire kit, and the rest are either 5 or 7wire)

 

Some are snake oil, some are super snake oil, others are super turbo type R snake oil, and some are lizard oil. What a joke.

 

Oooooh, which one's the type R, that's the best type ^_^

 

I just installed gorgee's kit, waiting for traffic to die down a bit to take a spirited test drive and see. If nothing else, I am please w/ the aesthetics.

 

I love my Grounding Gear kit. Totally smooths out idle and accleration is smoother also.
I actually don't care for snake oil. Too snaky.

 

lol, go on ebay and get one of those cheap wire sets. It does just as much good as the others.

 

is a 10 wire kit better then a 5 or 7? or does it all just do the same thing? oh yeah.... where can i buy a set for cheap....other then the cheap ones on ebay?

 

There's been a lot of discussion on grounding wires. They seem like snake oil, but all i've heard from everyone, and a lot of them are well educated, is that it really does improve the dynamics of the car. The auto tranny shifts more responsively, throttle response is improved, idle improved, etc. I don't think they really make any extra hp but it makes the car better to drive.

 

have it on my 05 5AT, def makes the manumatic shift faster and a lot more smoother, idles are better, and it sound knida weird but my stereo sounds a lil better also. Gordgee 10 wire performance kit baby, and a snap to install!

 

jusg et the one with the most wires lol

 

If a grounding wire kit makes you believe that your car feels better in some way, then it's worth it.

But it's all in your head. But hey when did that ever stop people? Lightweight pullies and "high performance" spark plug wires are still some of the most popular mods out there.

 

actually pullies do effect the rate your RPM drops.. also easyer for u to stall xP

 

So, given your username, I would assume you are either a mechanical engineer or an electrical engineer, maybe both? No? And you are saying good grounding will not affect electrical component signal integrity? Are any of these statements true???

 

you can make your own kit...just go buy some grounding wire and gold leads from a sterio shop

 

Good guess! Both. A good common low noise ground is clearly beneficial. My reasoning on grounding wires is as follows. If the OEM ground network was insufficient such that there was excessive ground bounce and degraded mileage / power / smoothness / etc, don't you think they would have spent the minimal extra $ to fix the issue to get the better EPA mileage numbers, break the 300 hp barrier, and ultimately sell more cars? And let's supposed for a minute that the stock system is in fact lacking. In that case, the car has been tuned from the factory to use the stock signals. If the MAF reads slightly low due to excessive current draw in the ignition system, then the car was tuned based on this low MAF reading, and adding grounding wires to "correct" this signal should only result in random "performance" changes across the board. Personally, I would not mess with it! And a good amount of your engine management system even outside the ECU uses digital communication anyway.