Goodbye G35. Hello M3!
Originally Posted by G35MC
okay okay, we all know that you are happy with your ride, but come on, save some faces for the G owners.. would ya?
before we kick you out... LOL
before we kick you out... LOL
Originally Posted by drewbagel423
and i should be taking some pics this weekend
And keep comparing the G and the M, I wanna know all the differences and different feels. I was also gonna buy M3 before the G, but figuring the much higher price, and much shorter warranty, I went with the G.
it really feels like the M is the Gs bigger brother, it does everything the G does, just better in my opinion, the speed, the handling, comfort, ammenities, styling, all very good on the G.... just.... better on the M
Congrats on the M. My next upgrade will be an M3 too! I love my G35 but it's my poor man's M3 =). I guess I'm a sucker. I've given in to the hype a long time ago. I personally think the M3 is the next step after the G35. Then a Porsche =))).
Originally Posted by TheKnite
How about today?
And keep comparing the G and the M, I wanna know all the differences and different feels. I was also gonna buy M3 before the G, but figuring the much higher price, and much shorter warranty, I went with the G.
And keep comparing the G and the M, I wanna know all the differences and different feels. I was also gonna buy M3 before the G, but figuring the much higher price, and much shorter warranty, I went with the G.
Let me play Ronin once again because most of the things you mention, my friend, are urban legends I was fooled by just like yourself.. it's always good to do your homework first.
Base 2006 M3 starts at $48,900. A nicely optioned M3 would run you mid 50s, but here the kicker is that an M3 doesn't need all the stupid options BMW makes you pay for. You could easily get $2000 off MSRP plus $500 BMWCCA discount. So if a fully loaded G is around $40k OTD and a nicely optioned M3 is mid 50s, you're looking at more or less $15k.
Insurance for me was $100 more than for the G per 6 months. And I'm single, under 25 in So Fla and I don't have the cleanest record. Depending on your status and region, the difference in insurance could be minimal.
Car price - you could easily find a FULLY loaded 03 M3 for mid 30s with 25-35k miles on it. When your 4yr/50k mile factory warranty is about to expire, you can easily purchase an aftermarket one that will cover you for another 4 years and will cost you $2500-3000 tops. How is that not comparable to a G?
Maintenance - again, 4yr/50k miles free from the factory, unlike the G. For a 2003 car that would mean free maintenance until 2007. M3s do NOT require oil changes every 3k miles, so don't be surprised if it costs you $100 for an oil change every 7-8k miles. Inspection I will be for sure covered for free under the free maintenance plan and Inspection II may or may not be depending on your mileage when the plan expires. Of course, you can always have it extended until 6yrs/100k miles.
I would stay clear of 2001s and 2002s as the earliest years tend to have more problems, but other than a dead alternator or battery or window trim falling off, you won't see M3s in the shop for bad clutches or tranny replacements nearly as often as G35s. The M might have little nuisances here and there, but I don't consider those problems. And for the price of a new G you can get a 2 year old M3 with 2 more years of full warranty/maintenance remaining.
True. But the M is no 5, 6, or 7 series.
I would not own one out of warranty. Then again, I would not own a G35 out of warranty either. It gives you piece of mind. That's why BMW USA has a special page listing all Certified vehicles in the US which come with a 6yr/100k warranty - if you buy a 2 year old M3 you'd be covered for 4 more years. But very few people know about this... I know someone who just purchased an 02 M3 with everything plus Navi with 30k miles for $33,500 - and he still has 2 more years of CPO warranty left.
This is true, however you won't find that many high mileage M3s, compared to used G35s anyway. The G is more of a daily driver while a lot of people have an M3 as a weekend car. M3s keep their value just as well as the G, and you have to look around a lot to strike a great deal. Don't forget that a car loses the most of its value during the first 2 years, so that's one thing that will happen if you buy new. In the end, it all depends on what you're looking for in a car. I love the G35 to death, but the car was just not me. The M is not perfect by any means and there are a lot of cars out there that outperform it for the money. But just like the G, it's a perfect mixture of many things. If you're perfectly happy with your G, then there's no reason to compare both, the G is a great car for what it is. I'm not trying to flame anybody but I just hate it when people talk based on what they've heard here and there and not based on their own experience.
Originally Posted by mephistomyhero
I totally agree with you here. I mean really, isn’t the M like $20K - $30K more then the G new?
Now, I like the M too but the added costs for everything (insurance, car price, maintenance, etc.) just didn’t justify it.
Car price - you could easily find a FULLY loaded 03 M3 for mid 30s with 25-35k miles on it. When your 4yr/50k mile factory warranty is about to expire, you can easily purchase an aftermarket one that will cover you for another 4 years and will cost you $2500-3000 tops. How is that not comparable to a G?
Maintenance - again, 4yr/50k miles free from the factory, unlike the G. For a 2003 car that would mean free maintenance until 2007. M3s do NOT require oil changes every 3k miles, so don't be surprised if it costs you $100 for an oil change every 7-8k miles. Inspection I will be for sure covered for free under the free maintenance plan and Inspection II may or may not be depending on your mileage when the plan expires. Of course, you can always have it extended until 6yrs/100k miles.
If I would get it used, most likely for the same price of a new G, the warranty on the M would be over and I don’t want to be spending all that money to keep the M in shape.
I know of way too many people with new BMW’s who are always in the shop for one thing or another.
Imagine doing that with the M when the warranty is up!
You know how it goes, once you pass 60K miles, they price of cars will plummet so I would rather buy a New car then a use car for the same price. Just my opinion though.
Last edited by Finiti35; Feb 24, 2006 at 08:55 PM.
I was about to buy an M3 from carmax on monday, but when I got there, they JUST sold it. It was blue, 2001, 40k miles for only $34k. Seems like a good deal to me. I was going to get it for my girlfriend (and for me to have fun with too)
Originally Posted by Finiti35
Let me play Ronin once again because most of the things you mention, my friend, are urban legends I was fooled by just like yourself.. it's always good to do your homework first.
Base 2006 M3 starts at $48,900. A nicely optioned M3 would run you mid 50s, but here the kicker is that an M3 doesn't need all the stupid options BMW makes you pay for. You could easily get $2000 off MSRP plus $500 BMWCCA discount. So if a fully loaded G is around $40k OTD and a nicely optioned M3 is mid 50s, you're looking at more or less $15k.
Insurance for me was $100 more than for the G per 6 months. And I'm single, under 25 in So Fla and I don't have the cleanest record. Depending on your status and region, the difference in insurance could be minimal.
Car price - you could easily find a FULLY loaded 03 M3 for mid 30s with 25-35k miles on it. When your 4yr/50k mile factory warranty is about to expire, you can easily purchase an aftermarket one that will cover you for another 4 years and will cost you $2500-3000 tops. How is that not comparable to a G?
Maintenance - again, 4yr/50k miles free from the factory, unlike the G. For a 2003 car that would mean free maintenance until 2007. M3s do NOT require oil changes every 3k miles, so don't be surprised if it costs you $100 for an oil change every 7-8k miles. Inspection I will be for sure covered for free under the free maintenance plan and Inspection II may or may not be depending on your mileage when the plan expires. Of course, you can always have it extended until 6yrs/100k miles.
I would stay clear of 2001s and 2002s as the earliest years tend to have more problems, but other than a dead alternator or battery or window trim falling off, you won't see M3s in the shop for bad clutches or tranny replacements nearly as often as G35s. The M might have little nuisances here and there, but I don't consider those problems. And for the price of a new G you can get a 2 year old M3 with 2 more years of full warranty/maintenance remaining.
True. But the M is no 5, 6, or 7 series.
I would not own one out of warranty. Then again, I would not own a G35 out of warranty either. It gives you piece of mind. That's why BMW USA has a special page listing all Certified vehicles in the US which come with a 6yr/100k warranty - if you buy a 2 year old M3 you'd be covered for 4 more years. But very few people know about this... I know someone who just purchased an 02 M3 with everything plus Navi with 30k miles for $33,500 - and he still has 2 more years of CPO warranty left.
This is true, however you won't find that many high mileage M3s, compared to used G35s anyway. The G is more of a daily driver while a lot of people have an M3 as a weekend car. M3s keep their value just as well as the G, and you have to look around a lot to strike a great deal. Don't forget that a car loses the most of its value during the first 2 years, so that's one thing that will happen if you buy new. In the end, it all depends on what you're looking for in a car. I love the G35 to death, but the car was just not me. The M is not perfect by any means and there are a lot of cars out there that outperform it for the money. But just like the G, it's a perfect mixture of many things. If you're perfectly happy with your G, then there's no reason to compare both, the G is a great car for what it is. I'm not trying to flame anybody but I just hate it when people talk based on what they've heard here and there and not based on their own experience.
Base 2006 M3 starts at $48,900. A nicely optioned M3 would run you mid 50s, but here the kicker is that an M3 doesn't need all the stupid options BMW makes you pay for. You could easily get $2000 off MSRP plus $500 BMWCCA discount. So if a fully loaded G is around $40k OTD and a nicely optioned M3 is mid 50s, you're looking at more or less $15k.
Insurance for me was $100 more than for the G per 6 months. And I'm single, under 25 in So Fla and I don't have the cleanest record. Depending on your status and region, the difference in insurance could be minimal.
Car price - you could easily find a FULLY loaded 03 M3 for mid 30s with 25-35k miles on it. When your 4yr/50k mile factory warranty is about to expire, you can easily purchase an aftermarket one that will cover you for another 4 years and will cost you $2500-3000 tops. How is that not comparable to a G?
Maintenance - again, 4yr/50k miles free from the factory, unlike the G. For a 2003 car that would mean free maintenance until 2007. M3s do NOT require oil changes every 3k miles, so don't be surprised if it costs you $100 for an oil change every 7-8k miles. Inspection I will be for sure covered for free under the free maintenance plan and Inspection II may or may not be depending on your mileage when the plan expires. Of course, you can always have it extended until 6yrs/100k miles.
I would stay clear of 2001s and 2002s as the earliest years tend to have more problems, but other than a dead alternator or battery or window trim falling off, you won't see M3s in the shop for bad clutches or tranny replacements nearly as often as G35s. The M might have little nuisances here and there, but I don't consider those problems. And for the price of a new G you can get a 2 year old M3 with 2 more years of full warranty/maintenance remaining.
True. But the M is no 5, 6, or 7 series.
I would not own one out of warranty. Then again, I would not own a G35 out of warranty either. It gives you piece of mind. That's why BMW USA has a special page listing all Certified vehicles in the US which come with a 6yr/100k warranty - if you buy a 2 year old M3 you'd be covered for 4 more years. But very few people know about this... I know someone who just purchased an 02 M3 with everything plus Navi with 30k miles for $33,500 - and he still has 2 more years of CPO warranty left.
This is true, however you won't find that many high mileage M3s, compared to used G35s anyway. The G is more of a daily driver while a lot of people have an M3 as a weekend car. M3s keep their value just as well as the G, and you have to look around a lot to strike a great deal. Don't forget that a car loses the most of its value during the first 2 years, so that's one thing that will happen if you buy new. In the end, it all depends on what you're looking for in a car. I love the G35 to death, but the car was just not me. The M is not perfect by any means and there are a lot of cars out there that outperform it for the money. But just like the G, it's a perfect mixture of many things. If you're perfectly happy with your G, then there's no reason to compare both, the G is a great car for what it is. I'm not trying to flame anybody but I just hate it when people talk based on what they've heard here and there and not based on their own experience.
Nice comparison. Although, when I built my M3 on their website, it came to $55K, and that is almost the bare minimum
Not too bad I guess but still $20K more. Anywho, I hope the next one looks better than the current one. I like the M3 for its performance but I just don't like the look of it right now. I may consider it again when I finish paying for my current G.
Oh, I was talking about my friends who have M's and 330ci's that are in the shop (I don't know anyone who actually have the new 5 or 7 series as those are just plane ugly).However, no the 330ci doesn't compare to the G coupe, especially after you add all the options to make it come close to a G, it will start getting close to the M3 in price. Anyways, congrats on your purchase! I'm glad you are liking it so far.


