Been driving stock almost two years and counting and been rocking it just fine I'm not hurtin to lower my car like everyone else is...but if there is an option, I will look into it. I'll continue to patiently wait...even if its goin to be awhile before someone comes through with a solid product with more than two people reviewing it.

Like I said, looking at your car on the ad itself doesn't really scream an unbiased review. Looking at the ad as a CONSUMER, and you see someone vouching for a product and their car is being advertised with the product...makes you question the review. I'm sure you can appreciate that. If not then you take things to heart when you shouldn't, I can't help that.

 

Vulcan,

Anyone that makes comments like this. "Everybody knows coilovers are a much better suspension, than lowering springs and shocks period ! " will have their credibility questioned IMO. I have been racing since 97 and have plenty of track time under my belt. There is plenty of coilovers out there that are **** compared to the stock suspension. Have you ever heard of Ground Control or Section?? I think Ground Control got their act straight, but their first batch of coilovers were utter ****.
I went through 5 different suspension setups on my S14 before I settled with JIC. I tried Eibach spring with stock shocks,Eibach springs with GAB shocks, GAB Revo coilovers, HKS coilovers and finally JIC FLTA2 coilovers.

Believe it or not, all are not made the same thats why we are asking questions. If I were to boost my G VRT is on top of my list, but my S14 satisfies my speed bug and then some so I have no need for it. Plus my chick would kill me.

I am willing to buy these and test them out, but I have some questions that need to be answered first. I PM'ed Michael with them and hopefully I will hear from him soon.

To my credibilty I was the second person after Kenji Sumino(Head of R&D @ Greddy and good friend of mine) that turbocharged a KA24DE(96 240SX) in the US. Tested ECU's for Jim Wolf, was sponsored by Stillen, designed Supra parts for Sound Performance which one made it to Turbo magazine for a Supra build. With all that I still would not get bent if someone double questioned my opinion. If it worked for me, thats all I would care about.

I did pretty much all the work on my car myself so I know what Im doing. Unfortunately I have a life now and AMS takes care of my cars.

VRT has not been around for as long as some other shops i deal with so questions are going to be asked. If it were JWT, SP Engineering, Sound Performance or AMS I would just buy them. They earned my trust and Im close with all of them. Thats just the way it works.

OFF TOPIC: Here are some vids of my cars sister car in action. Its setup for drag though.

http://turbo240.com/videos/turbo240ivan5.zip

http://www.turbo240.com/videos/turbo240ivan8.zip

He recently pulled a 9.1


And Im pretty sure we are not concerned with the 4x4 look, but more with safety and the $1800 investment.

 

the Staggard setup didnt affect the awd at all , it just like it was no issues .

 

coilovers are a much better suspension, than lowering springs

I was comparing coilovers to lowering springs not stock suspension Mr.Racer
pay attention!

 

Why PM me with the same comments and post them??? I guess you have trouble understanding my previous post. So here it is in a simplified manner.

Some coilover systems are so sh1tty and unsafe that stocks suspension is a better choice by far. Just because it looks nice in a picture it does not mean its good.

Ill give you a good example. My GAB Revo coilovers were very pretty and performed well @ moderate speeds on smooth roads, but had a bad flaw. The rear spring rate was too low and the coils would bind under lots of load. Not only were thay unsafe, I also could not push the car harder. Eventually I destroyed one of the pillow ***** going over a bump.

Another example was a set of coilovers made in Taiwan by a certain company for the FX35 which also had bad spring rates and the owner of the car took them off after a couple weeks. Ask Michael about this since Im sure he knows.

The funny thing is......we dont even know the spring rates on the VRT coilovers.......do you???


Signed

Mr. Racer

 

LOL!! And Im comparing quality of coilovers out there.

Some are complete ****. Im glad they work for you, but how can you expect me to go and buy VRT coilovers without at least knowing the spring rate.

Every coilover system out there lists the spring rate except for VRT.[/QUOTE]

I dont expect you to do anything . what are u talking about , nobody out there makes coilovers for the X let alone lowering springs specifically for the X right
so whos this everybody listing spring rates the reason that i recommend VRT coilovers is i like the ride it handles well and so far they are the only solution that i know of for Lowering the X. Do you know of someone else trying to make a suspension for the X . mine is an 04' its now 2007 and i havent heard of anyone ! i was willing to try them out and im happy whats wrong with that

 

Again!! Why post and PM me with the same stuff??? You might as well copy and paste my replies to your PM to save me the trouble of typing it twice.

So let me get this straight. We should buy the VRT coilovers because no one else makes them for the X and because you like them??

Hmmmm. Thats a hard one. On one side I have mystery blue coilovers that you like and on the other I have my stock suspension that works and is safe, but makes my car look like a 4X4.

You have a future in advertising.

 

Have fun at the Jeep Jamboree

 

That was a very weak comeback

nr2134 has valid points...end of story. You got zinged bro

I am eagerly awaiting for VRT to answer my initial question about who actually manufactures these coilovers. I'm sure others are waiting to hear the same.

 

nr2134,

Anyword on other manufacturer plans for the X?

 

Function over form is what I go by. We just want some technical details about these before i pull the trigger.

 

ummm whats the spring rate of the VRT springs?

nr check ur PM. u PMed me one day to late.

 

Thats the thing. We dont even know something as simple as the spring rate which should be listed IMO.

Dont get me wrong, I applaud VRT for trying to help out the X crowd for sure.
With money back guarantee it should be an easy choice, but I would like to know more what Im buying. Im not complaining in any way shape or form about the effort that VRT has put into these for the record.

 

errr. nvm post

 

To give credit to vulcanraven1 and VRT, the coilvers/arms did feel great when I had them on. Gives the car a tight/precise drive...almost beemer like.

My 'version1' VRT coilovers had major flaws especially in the arm. Hopefully, some of these flaws are corrected in the new one. Only time will tell on these coilovers whether it can be daily driven. So keep us updated vulcanraven1. MrA might disagree but issues w/ suspension wont come up in 1st 1000miles. The arms were hitting my brake caliper in first 2 weeks I had car. But, eventually at 2k the arms had hairline cracks.

The other issue is passenger side arm bent when I hit a pothole. It was pretty big pothole and impact was pretty bad and bent my wheel alittle. Although, the stock (INFINITI) lower arm didnt bend since it had bushings that tore. So not sure how much flex that arm has or if there is any. These arms might be great on track and racing but im not convinced it'll take the bumps of daily driving...not that hitting pothole helped any. Main thing to remember is our stock parts are engineered by Nissan and VRT's is machine shopped. who know's where the coilover comes from...(made inChina?)

Reason i went bak to stock is there's still too much unknown and VRT isnt helping much by being so vague. Also, doesnt help that customer svc has been nil. If he hasnt answereed everybody questions now while he's tryin to sell these arms...what's it going to be like after you buy them? I got too frustrated and went back to stock just so I dont have to deal w/ them anymore. Michael might mean well but either he's got incompentent staff or overwhelmed or he doesnt care. We'll see if $$$back guarantee works...even so, im still in hole for having to buy new stocks parts.

IM loving being back to stock!!