Fixed my roaring (feathering) tire issue on my sedan, run the tires backwards
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1) Dave posted more links to state his theory than YOU have.
2) You are CLEARLY the one with a hard on for Dave. As YOU have way more posts attacking his credibility in this thread than I confirming your lack of credibility.
3) Why don't you spend more time posting the links we asked you for before asking someone else for theirs?
2) You are CLEARLY the one with a hard on for Dave. As YOU have way more posts attacking his credibility in this thread than I confirming your lack of credibility.
3) Why don't you spend more time posting the links we asked you for before asking someone else for theirs?
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Take your personal attacks somewhere else Jeff. You are ruining this topic like usual. Stay on topic.
Nah, you actually need to act like a adult. We are asking for the link where he found this Michelin information. So we are still waiting.
Nah, you actually need to act like a adult. We are asking for the link where he found this Michelin information. So we are still waiting.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
I don't see the harm in asking for where he found this information. I wasn't the only one that asked. LOL!
Jeff you need to chill out.
Jeff you need to chill out.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Grow up Jeff. Mod asked you to stop, but your ignoring his request. Now back on topic.
Jeff & Russ: drop it. Any more posts in this thread along these lines will be deleted.
Last edited by trey.hutcheson; 08-09-2007 at 03:05 PM. Reason: fixed from *nod to *not
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Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Mike
Michelin North America
Consumer Relations
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Mike
Michelin North America
Consumer Relations
#69
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Mike
Michelin North America
Consumer Relations
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Mike
Michelin North America
Consumer Relations
It's good to see that even they admit that the tire will not be damaged. So many think that running a directional backwards will some how result in a blow out, ply separation, or some other serious issue.
Finally, if you're going to do this, make sure that your tires are only directional and not asymetrical directional. There is a difference. An asymetrical tire has varying tread designs and rubber compounds across the face of the tire. A standard directional tire does not.
#70
Originally Posted by DaveB
Regardless, he basically reiterated what I've been saying all along, certain traction/handling situations (ie rain/slush) driving may be impaired by running the tires backwards. In terms of dry handling, there is absolutely no difference, at least with my Avons. I've thrown the car into some pretty rough manuvers just to see if it was going to exhibit any odd at the limit handling behaviors.
On the other hand, that means that for everyday driving and possibly even some less exaggerated emergency maneuvers, that reversing the direction of those avons has no impact on everyday driving.
#74
Originally Posted by DaveB
About what I expected. It's funny that they're UK site site says you can run direectional tires backwards in order to fix certain wear problems. Regardless, he basically reiterated what I've been saying all along, certain traction/handling situations (ie rain/slush) driving may be impaired by running the tires backwards. In terms of dry handling, there is absolutely no difference, at least with my Avons. I've thrown the car into some pretty rough manuvers just to see if it was going to exhibit any odd at the limit handling behaviors. I can't comment on the others that are running different brand tires backwards.
It's good to see that even they admit that the tire will not be damaged. Somany think that running a directional backwards will some how result in a blow out, ply separation, or some other serious issue.
Finally, if you're going to do this, make sure that your tires are only directional and not asymetrical directional. There is a difference. An asymetrical tire has varying tread designs and rubber compounds across the face of the tire. A standard directional tire does not.
It's good to see that even they admit that the tire will not be damaged. Somany think that running a directional backwards will some how result in a blow out, ply separation, or some other serious issue.
Finally, if you're going to do this, make sure that your tires are only directional and not asymetrical directional. There is a difference. An asymetrical tire has varying tread designs and rubber compounds across the face of the tire. A standard directional tire does not.
Regardless, he basically reiterated what I've been saying all along, certain traction/handling situations (ie rain/slush) driving may be impaired by running the tires backwards.
That's not what was said but how you are interpreting it, to support your original statement. Once again he said:
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.
A directional tread design is intended to be run in one direction to
maximize handling and traction capabilities. If you run it in the wrong
direction it will diminish the handling and traction capabilities that the
tire was designed to deliver. It will not damage the tire itself but it may
not wear properly.
Thank you for your question about Michelin tires.
If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-800-847-3435 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
Michelin North America
Consumer Relations
He is saying it will diminish the handling and handing capabilities the tire is designed for. No mention of only certain handling or traction conditions as you're purporting. IMHO, that is a difference and it applies to all conditions the tire would be subjected to.
#75
Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Dave, I don't mean to nitpick, but I have a problem with that statement. While I certainly believe that you haven't noticed any differences, I find it hard to believe that you'd be able to pull any maneuvers on public roads that would be extreme enough to allow the differences to be noticeable. In fact, I don't think you'd notice the difference until you did something like autocrossing. Of course, that's just my opinion.
On the other hand, that means that for everyday driving and possibly even some less exaggerated emergency maneuvers, that reversing the direction of those avons has no impact on everyday driving.
On the other hand, that means that for everyday driving and possibly even some less exaggerated emergency maneuvers, that reversing the direction of those avons has no impact on everyday driving.
The only negative thing I've noticed is a very slight increase in what I call graininess which is felt through the steering wheel. The graininess can probably be attributed to either the feathered edges running backwards and/or simply because the tread is running backwards.
Grip in dry and wet (not standing water) conditions is largely dictated by the rubber compound used and the amount of rubber that meets the road, not the tread design. There's a reason why race cars use slicks or shaved tires. The more a performance tire gets the worn, the better it handles, responds, and feels in the dry. Additionaly, the more the tire gets worn, the worse it handles in inclement weather.
Last edited by DaveB; 08-10-2007 at 12:30 PM.