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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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This looks like my car now but im on coupe 19's and the rear has a 1 finger gap with the front looking like that.. Not anything pretty to look at.

The right drop makes the G sedan look so much better. I can't stand looking at my car anymore now that ive return it to basically stock.
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by eric300zx
One thing to keep in mind when you go with a
big wheel set up is that your braking suffers and as well as your acceleration.
Even with the Coupe 19's being forged, the weight compared with the stock 18's was much more. Imagine if you go bigger like what Jimmy has, you're
definitely going to feel the effects in performance. If it's all looks you are after, then that is fine I guess.
Hmmm... Thanks for pointing that out--I didn't actually consider the braking and acceleration ramifications of bigger tires/wheels.... I'll definitely have to take these into consideration.

Thanks again, man.
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by heftylefty58
Hmmm... Thanks for pointing that out--I didn't actually consider the braking and acceleration ramifications of bigger tires/wheels.... I'll definitely have to take these into consideration.

Thanks again, man.
Why would this matter, you dont want to lower your car if its going to sacrafice ride quailty but your worried about acceleration and braking?? Are you planning on tracking your car, if not then why worry.. Also dont forget with bigger rims/tires you'll increase your top end..

Anyway the differences in rim size from 18 to 19 to 20 is not that noticeable unless you get some POS rims that weigh like 30-40 pounds ea. The most noticable thing is the actually rim width allowing for wider tires and more stability.
 

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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by eric300zx
One thing to keep in mind when you go with a big wheel set up is that your braking suffers and as well as your acceleration.
Even with the Coupe 19's being forged, the weight compared with the stock 18's was much more. Imagine if you go bigger like what Jimmy has, you're
definitely going to feel the effects in performance. If it's all looks you are after, then that is fine I guess. Goodluck with your mod and just have fun doing it!
not always ... the 19" I'm getting are lighter than most 17" and 18"
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:55 AM
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Why would this matter, you dont want to lower your car if its going to sacrafice ride quailty but your worried about acceleration and braking?? Are you planning on tracking your car, if not then why worry.. Also dont forget with bigger rims/tires you'll increase your top end..
... I presume you mean in the sense that it will be like taller gear ratio… however the wheel diameter will be bigger, but the profile of the tire will be shorter - so the overall diameter will be the same (providing you get the correct size) – basically it wouldn’t be in any different in terms of top end or bottom end… unless you mean rotating mass at higher revolutions somehow results in better top end, but I don’t think that’s the case…
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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Oh ****! If your actually analyzing my sarcastic statement then wow. Not to mention their is a speed limiter on these things from factory.

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Im not actually promoting getting a bigger size rim for higher a slighty higher top end. And in most cases getting a smaller tirewall will not result in the same diameter wheel.
 

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Old May 3, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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Oh ****! If your actually analyzing my sarcastic statement then wow. Not to mention their is a speed limiter on these things from factory.

*added*
Im not actually promoting getting a bigger size rim for higher a slighty higher top end. And in most cases getting a smaller tirewall will not result in the same diameter wheel.
if the proper series tire is mounted, the shorter sidewall will offset the bigger rim - so the overall diameter is the same... I'm not sure what your last sentence meant?.. I wasn't trying to analyze you - and I didn’t know you were being sarcastic... I was just trying to clear it up for anyone thinking they would benefit top end from getting a bigger wheel.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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my 18s are 18lbs and few ounces k?...i win!

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Old May 3, 2008 | 03:14 AM
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Doh! Busted!

Naw, seriously though, I forgot that yours was still at stock height. I was thrown off by how other posters kept saying "lower it like Texan1 did". I still find it strange that more person posted that advice based on your pics considering you haven't even done it yet!

On a side note, I like your G, but I'm not really using any black cars for researching what would look good for my BS car. As someone (or maybe you?) pointed out, black cars are able to better hide the clumsy look of the stock height. There's no hiding the clumsiness with the silver/gray sedans. So, that's why I was particularly impressed with jimmy's.

Just to prove I'm not blowing smoke, here's the car I was comparing jimmy's with:



(As you can see, the above car is definitely not ugly, and as a matter of fact, it was one of the cars I intended to emulate when I first bought my G. Regardless, I like jimmy's mo' betta'.)

Ok, I see. As far as people advising you lower like I had done, based on the pics I posted...I don't think it was based on them looking carefully at my G and then recommending you "do the same". I think many here have seen my g pics posted here and there and thus don't really scrutinize the pics I put. Also, they just assumed that I had done this already b/c of all the research I did on z/g coupe springs(which I now own 2 full sets of z/g coupe springs,but I won't use as a z/g b/c of all the negatives I posted b4). I will be lowering the front soon, but I haven't had the time nor found the shop. I don't have time/tools to do myself. I don't mind a near 2" all around gap that I will have for a dd car. But the pic you posted has to be 3" or 3 1/4" all around

Yes that pic is nice(minus the height) and jimmys is way sharp as you mentioned. rant over.
 

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Old May 3, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by VQ Hotness
Why would this matter, you dont want to lower your car if its going to sacrafice ride quailty but your worried about acceleration and braking?? Are you planning on tracking your car, if not then why worry.. Also dont forget with bigger rims/tires you'll increase your top end..

Anyway the differences in rim size from 18 to 19 to 20 is not that noticeable unless you get some POS rims that weigh like 30-40 pounds ea. The most noticable thing is the actually rim width allowing for wider tires and more stability.
exactly, the rays forged cpe 19s I have weigh less than the stock cast 17s. The tires have less sidewall and thus are pretty similar to the 225mm 17" tires I had b4--the setup feels slightly heavier than stock due to more mass farther from the hub...but its negligible unless you go with cheap heavy wheels.
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Texan1
exactly, the rays forged cpe 19s I have weigh less than the stock cast 17s. The tires have less sidewall and thus are pretty similar to the 225mm 17" tires I had b4--the setup feels slightly heavier than stock due to more mass farther from the hub...but its negligible unless you go with cheap heavy wheels.
the thing is, with bigger rims, in many/most cases the tires are actually lighter with he shorter profile - so the rotating mass farther from the hub (being the tire) isn’t affected like it seems...

I ordered CE28Ns... and was contemplating 18 X 8.5 @ 16lbs, but the tires would have been 27 lbs (43 ttl) instead I ordered 19 X 8.5 @ 19.4 lbs, but the tires are 26 lbs (45.4 ttl) - 2.5 lbs heavier overall but 1 lb less farthest away from hub... Anyway - even with 19s, I will be lighter than OEM 17" - and because of the added tire weight with 18" I'll be as light or lighter overall than most of them.
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by G Sedan
my 18s are 18lbs and few ounces k?...i win!

kthxbye
how much do your tires weigh
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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H&R's with stock 18's is a beautiful combonation! I love the ride its just a smooth as stock (or better) and the look its great! This is my wifes car and I didn't want to go to low because of some obvious reasons. If it were mine it would be slammed.

Oh and as far as camber. I had it aligned a couple of weeks after I lowered it and the specs were just out of spec but I havn't detected any significant tire wear, maybe a little in the front.

These are before and after. The car has settled a little since the after pic and it sits perfecly level now. IMO the eibach springs can make the car sit a little high in the front, the H&R's are Perfect!
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
if the proper series tire is mounted, the shorter sidewall will offset the bigger rim - so the overall diameter is the same...
Well with my experience with having different rim sizes the over hight of the wheels are always a little different from changing rim size.

I used to go through a set of rear tires every three months and each tire company has their differences in tire wall size compared to others when comparing the same spec tires. So that effects your wheel hight sometimes even when staying with the same rim size.

Im not trying to start anything im just saying trying to keep the same diameter especially when changing rim size is not as easy as walking in the park. But of course we are talking in mm's here.
 

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Old May 3, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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This is my car with 18" VS-XX and 350Zh-tech

Pic was last year
 
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