To the OP, I checked your past posts and believe you are not a spammer.

Think about it this way: If Nissan / Toyota / Honda have not figured out that it works and started installing them in every car they make then they probably do not work.

Or this way: If it actually worked then a large reputable company like Bosch or someone else would buy the company that came up with the idea and use their good name to promote the product.

 

^you could not be more wrong.

 

Would you at least agree with me that given my above scenarios that one should be suspicious that the product does not work?

There is no way to prove something does not work without trying it but I think that the number of truly great products that fly under the radar of the average consumer is fairly small.

There is no way either of us will ever know for sure but I would imagine that in the current age of high fuel prices that Nissan has at least looked into these things. If Nissan can manfucature the G35 and the GTR and etc. then I bet they could figure these magents out.

 

As I have mentioned before that magnet alone will not do much good.

It will benefit but very very very little.


And since when did any auto maker was ever interested in producing efficient engines?

For 100s of years we burned our fuel with 8 to 10% efficiency and instead of improoving the engine what they do? They use it's power to charge batteries and run the car on electric motors.

Well. I'm not sure if you know but that's what our freight trains do for quite some time now.

They have this big a$$ generator on board that generates electricity by burning **** load of diesel fuel and then use that electricity to power up the locomotive.

So half of the world like a bunch of dumb fvcks now loves HONDA and TOYOTA and bunch of other hybrid car manufactures cuz they simply went to a rail road company, took their locomotive, shrunk it and put it in the car and called it FUEL EFFICIENT.

Well FVCK me sideways but isn't that the same fvcking engine that you had in the other "Not so fuel efficient" car.
How did it happen to be more fvcking efficient now?

OMFG. How fvcking genius of them.

 

^I follow you now.

Yeah, they use to talk about the range of the car, "400 miles on a tank" and then to accomplish that they would toss in 40 gallon tanks.

I think that Toyota has been powering a number of vehicles in Japan with their hybrid system for a while now, busses or something. That is why they have the best technology out there, from what I have heard.

I think that with the current fuel prices there will be much more effort spent by car companies to produce efficient engines. Consumers now want them and that should drive the sales and additional innovation.

To the OP: Sorry for jacking your thread. I would probably not buy the magnet myself but if you decide to give it a try please keep track of your mileage and post up a definitive answer for any who might be inclined to try it out.

 

The only way I see auto manufactures improving the situation is to offer smaller, lighter cars with smaller engines that produce less power and use less fuel.

It will be a while before they switch over to another fuel (such as hydrogen. Honda already doing it in California) and then the history will repeat it self.

 

Have any of you seen the Honda Clarity? That's the hyrdrogen car that is in consumer testing in SoCal right now...

But it doesnt run an IC engine on hydrogen... it uses a 'special' type of hydrogen burning motor (ie, generator) to produce electricity that powers the electric motors to actually move the car...

Interesting concept... oh, and the H2 is produced from an H2 generator that is at your home and runs on natural gas... makes me wonder how high my utility bill would be in comparison to just buying regular gas for the regular car that you already own outright...

 

don't they have hydrogen fuel stations in Cali too?

 

yes... right now most of the Clarity owners/testers will have to use them... seems that the plan is for everyone to eventually have them at home...

i honestly dont know the answer to this... but is Nat. gas a renewable resource? I thought it was aquired much like oil... please pardon my ignorance on this subject...

 

yes it is acquired like oil.

But I think at home deal might be a bait.

I doubt it'll come to that.

they will prolly pull some safety trick on the public and convince everyone that it's much better to just have a good old fuel station.

 

so eventually we will be buying it from other nations to run the massive H2 plants needed to supply the US with enought for all these "fuel saving" cars? GRRRREAT idea...

I know H2 can be produced by electrolosys with water, but even that takes electricity, which takes a fuel source to produce... sigh...

 

there are plenty powerful enough devices that can produce enough hydrogen fuel on demand (in the car) but most of these companies cant get a break from the govmnt to release their products.

Govmnt simply gonna butt fvck to death anyone who tries to steal consumers from them.

 

Some people consider it mad science, but I am currently researching and building an HHO generator for my 96 cherokee.... I am also involved in a HUGE thread on jeepforum.com about it...

This wont use HHO as the only fuel source, simply a combustable addition to the gasoline, so that less gas can be used to acheive the same about of combustion energy... its WAY more complicated than that though...

 

more power to you man.

I'm doing same thing but with kit that's already made by a company.

Includes Hydro assist Fuel Cell
and a computer module which helps to control engines ECU to reduce fuel delivery to the engine.

BTW got a link to a thread.

Our Driver community is not so bright and cant really hold a discussion about this topic.

 

thanks and THAT ^^^ is what i need... a way to lean it out... I'd love to have controls on my dash with a digital readout showing me all my ratios in realtime...

i've heard people talk about the extra O2 from the HHO throwing and O2 sensor code and the computer going back to default... which negates any savings...

I'm just hoping my cherokee is dumb enough to accept it and not change the A/F back to default...

and i am going to stick with homemade for now... I havent seen any generators that I couldnt build myself yet... its the electronics that i'm lacking on