$3800 for the supercharger ONLY. What about the rest like I said earlier? Installation, supporting mods, tuning? Show me a HKS supercharged G35 with just the supercharger that's in the 12's like you claim. Everyone knows HKS makes a good supercharger although it's one of the weakest in power output.

^ I'm sorry but this is such ricer math. You're too obsessed with HP/TQ figures that you completely forget about the overall car.

LOL call Infiniti and ask the same question .

What's really disappointing is that they came out with these numbers in 2001-2006. Until recently, the G37 is the only car that has similar numbers with an 8 year old car, which doesn't even compare to the M3's performance.

There is no point with debating with you on which is the better car. The facts are there, the numbers are there. The OP said he won't be modifying it so your whole argument about making 50000hp is now pointless.

I completely agree.

 

I could redo the interior in leather that exceeds the quality of either.

So a Pinto is good to go yes?

Let's see: Built Pinto

1) Value check
2) Practicicality. check Just a practical as any modded G
3) Low ownership costs. Parts for Pinto can't get any cheaper!
4) Reliability. Since I'd be basicly rebuilding the whole thing, it should be really reliable
5) power to weight. Well a Pinto is about 2600 lbs and the sky is the limit engine wise so....check
6) Potential. What about it? It's performance will exceed the other two.
7) Resale? Really? A highly modded car has any decent resale? A modded car is only worth what someone is going to pay. But the Pinto won't cost as much so it won't need to sell for as much. So again check.

 

BMW-Big Money Waist. Go with the G dude. You'll be much happier.

 

I absolutely love my 7 y/o G and I'd be estatic to have an E46 M3.

 

says the guy who never has owned a bmw. and waist... is spelt waste.

Owned a g for 3 years. now own an e46 m3. M3 is hands down better, more fun, and exciting to drive than the g has been for me. I'm sure most car enthusiasts would say the same.

 

^Same. I like the body of the G35 but would take the M3 motor any day. Stock for stock M3 outperforms the G35 in handling and performance. Modified vs modified is a mater of who has the fatter wallet. Dre can think what he wants.

 

Oh God....You have one hard head. Look how much money was dumped into the performance modifications of ttranks car for it to be the way it is. For a starter the BMW comes with WAY better breaks, suspension, and power. Granted the VQ is one hell of a motor it just isn't what the M3 motor is. Again, why do you insist on comparing modded cars? As said above I can find a pos car that meets all of your "drivers car" list minus one or two options for a high price. You can only have 2: reliability, price, power. So pick which 2 you want when modding. This creates WAY to many variables to ever compare. Hence why I say, give up the arguement. Its going nowhere. Let me ask you something, have you ever owned an E46 M3 so that you could drive it day in and day out to truely see what it offers? If not then your opinion to me is a grain of salt because you can't possibly learn EVERYTHING about a car by occasional test drives. The M3 has some hidden goodness, meaning you don't "fully" appreciate it until you use it. If you ever owned one you would know what I mean. I owned it for 1 year and was STILL learning what this car could do.

 

You need to pay to play. Don't barely afford an M3, it will bite you where it hurts...So by this statement above you made up your mind already.

 

It was a brand new kit with everything included for $3800.
You obliviously don't even know how much money he wasted. His car was supercharged, then turbocharged and then finally built. He bought several different wheels sets, did interior mods, first exhaust was a Borla 2.5" which was useless later, exterior mods and so on. Most of those mods were not necessary AT ALL.

I already posted the average price to get a G35 into the 9s in 1/4 IF most of the work is done by the owner.
Like I said you have to get to work or you can spend money and buy something fast out of the box and pay triple.
I was actually nice and posted a dynojet instead of a DD which shows real world lower numbers.

Well with my math it takes about $4000 in suspension mods that makes it infinitely adjustable and in my opinion it will handle just fine against some of the best cars. I made a price chart to make it easier for everyone because the only thing people know about here are springs and sway bars. Add coildovers for $1800 brand new. With a 05 or 06 revup I would say add less than $1000 in N/A mods to lose weight and add minimal gains.




Individuals pics. Front







Rear.





Of course it is better than your old car. You dropped that 6 year old G sedan on springs while the suspension had worn out components on all 4 corners. A lot of improved difference that made in ride quality. It actually made it worse.

Did that HKS rear section give a lot of gains for $400?

 

BTW. Those prices^^^^ are subject to change if you are unable to put the cap back on the toothpaste. DIY.

 

The 9s in the 1/4 mile? Do you realize how power it would take a 3,600lb G35(w/driver, no weight reduction) to go 9s in the 1/4 mile? We're talking about 800whp and it would require full blown slicks. Even then, the drivetrain isn't going to be able to handle it reliably. You're essentially talking about a non-streetable $80K+ G35.


I don't think you understand just how painful that suspension would be to deal with on a daily basis. Those parts remove nearly all the rubber bushings and replace them with solid steel bushings. That will introduce a crazy amount of harshness and noises. There's good reason why street cars have rubber bushings and race cars have steel bushings. I'm still convinced a stock M3 on R-spec tires and wider wheels would still outhandle a G35 with all the suspension mods listed plus R-spec rubber. With M3, you simply swap the wheels and drive it daily in luxury and refinement. With the G, it's going to noisy, squeaky, harsh, and just downright annoying.

With that said, I'm terribly happy with the way my 03 sedan handles with OEM 350 Z dampers, Z/coupe springs, rear sway bar, and sticky 18" rubber. It will outhandle 99% of the cars on the road and offers probably 90% of the potential of a stock M3 E46/E92. Getting that extra 10% will take too much money and compromise. I'm happy with the way it sits now and will be even better with the 3.3 VLSD swap in the spring.

 

Note that those compoents won't make the ride height, spring rates or shocks rates adjustable. You're going to need to add a quality coilover kit to the mix. The suspension guru here says most coilovers kits aren't really up to par until you are into the $2500-$3000 range? Then you have to hire someone to actually tune it and corner balance it to actually make it handle well.

 

Like I said in the post add $1800 for coilovers. SPL used to make some of the best for that price but they stopped making them because people kept buying lousy Teins. Usually people that had no idea SPL existed.
I guess I'll have to quote myself.
^that figure includes the average price of a used G35. I think it's a great deal and it can even be cheaper than that. The turbos in the SP kit are capable of 625 hp each.

You can add polyurethane bushings instead with some components and it will keep most of the ride comfort if not all and be cheaper. http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=3783 http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=3784
I think it will drive just fine so I wouldn't.

 

And no warranty and no guarantee it will actually handle better and really 625hp each? You really say that? LOL.

So far my Pinto is the winning combo here.

 

Now you're talking 8s? Sorry, but you're loosing credibility with every post. This is what it takes a 3,100lb C6 Z06 to go high 9.2s@156mph = 1046rwhp/1023rwt. In parts alone, it took the owner about $40K to get there.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1567344309-post454.html

To get a heavier G35 sedan to do the same feat and grace 8s, you're talking around 1400whp. Ummmm......yeah. Sorry, but an overstroked twin turbo VQ is no match for a modded LS9. It's not even the same ball game, much less sport.