Take the muffler off and put a rear mount turbo in it's place. That's how my car is setup and i like it, .

Lol i have never heard of that are u for real or joking?

Then what exactly makes it loose power?

Not enough Velocity? or some thing?

Domestic guys have been doing that for a while since V8's tend to suffer space under the hood.


as for no muffler..

Big no no,

without tuning you lose power, at lower RPMs drastically.

I kinda like the idea of a rear mount turbo how much did that cost and was it a hard install?

Just get one of these and youll be set. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol x 10

I wasn't clear that i had to provide proof if its ghetto or sounds ricey. I don't need to do that on G to change how my opinion on that is. My opinion is valid solely because its my opinion. That doesn't stop you from sharing your unbiased opinion. Having a Eclipse without one for a day in my last car gave me a good enough idea of how much i won't like it in the next car.

Rear mount turbos are real and have been around for a few years. It's common on v8s

So you're comparing apples to oranges? I'm not saying you're not entitled to your own opinion, but you're saying it sounded ricey on an Eclipse. You drive a G35 now. At stock, do they sound the same? I think not. Even if you put on say an HKS or Borla on either vehicle, will it sound the same? No. So how can you make an assumption that it sounds rice when you haven't heard it in person?

When I had no muffler I would always get asked what muffler I had because it sounded nice and deep, no rasp, and was pretty loud. It's impossible for not having a muffler on your Eclipse to give you an idea of how it would sound. Take off the mufflers on a Vette, you think that's gonna sound rice as well? I mean if you're comparing the G35 to the Eclipse, might as well say the same about a Vette, or even an old muscle car. Haven't you seen those vehicles without mufflers? They sound FAAAAR from rice. And that's why I was saying it can't be rice. In this case, your opinion is false. Even the looks, because you can't tell if there is a canister or not if the bumper hangs low. And if it doesn't, it could be a modified exhaust.

How much do they cost i went on STS website but i couldnt find their prices.

Since we we are on the subject what kind of turbo would be better, rear mount or a conventional turbo?

Also does anyone know what size bolt the muffler uses?

Rear mounted turbo's work the same way as a coventional turbo is the same with the only exception being the turbos are mounted closer to the heads. As long as you have no restrictions from the headers to the turbo(s).

The only reason people opted for that setup is the simple fact that space in a v8 is very limited. Some have opted for the stealth mod but in essence its all about space. Sometimes this setup allows you to get a bigger turbo than it would fit under the hood without fabricating or removing parts off the car.

I really want to take off my mufller but my bolts are rusted is there a specific size i need for when i put my muffler back on or will any bolt do?

I'm unsure of the sizing, but try spraying some liquid wrench and using a breaker bar to get the bolts off. But I'd stick with the same sized bolt.

I was lucky enough to buy the car with it already installed, . So, it was cheap, haha.