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Old 11-22-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust

what am I jealous of here? Sure I love your wheels, but I really don't see how that is relevent to the current debate.
I don;t mean just jealous of me (or my wheels)... I mean jealous in general... you constantly comment negatively on other members rides (and that's even what started this in this thread):
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yup..lol but they have better wheels then us...lol
^^^obviously sarcasm

You've done it since you became a member... constantly bashing the G in general, then moving on to bashing modded Gs... you simply seem bitter and jealous (just telling you how you come across to me).
 
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust
see that proves my point, a much worse 60ft, a lower trap and a faster et

anything between 2.1 and 2.3 is too good of a 60 ft to run a 14.003@103

never said your car couldn't run 13s but you are acting like I did for some reason. I mean you have a tune and cams, you damn well better be in the 13s and faster then nearly bone stock 6MTs
bone stock 6MTs run low to mid 14s at Fontana - none running near 13s... (I was .003 off)...

As for Famoso comparo - that run was fractions of a second difference (ET was just over 5 one hundredths of a second faster) and trap was less than 1mph slower... 60' under one tenth difference.

Far from the drastic difference you portray it to be. So how is it so unusual at Fontana and not Famoso?...
 
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btw hammer, with cams/headers and rev limiter bumped to 7500, hp remains past the typical 6300 drop - it still drops, a little later in the rpm range, but hp is still higher in the upper rpm than it was pre-cams/headers... so I'm finishing the 1/4 much stronger than before (which could explain your concern).
 
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Originally Posted by OCG35
btw hammer, with cams/headers and rev limiter bumped to 7500, hp remains past the typical 6300 drop - it still drops, a little later in the rpm range, but hp is still higher in the upper rpm than it was pre-cams/headers... so I'm finishing the 1/4 much stronger than before (which could explain your concern).
The exact point I was going to make. IMO, your cams have sucked out a bit of power in the lower rpms; therefore, effecting the car's 0 to 330' time. After that, the car is sailing and adding lots of MPH. I'd imagine the mph gain in the last 1/8th mile is 23mph+. It's very common for higher strung motors to post relatively high MPHs in relation to a "clean run" 60'. If you had a higher stall torque converter, the ET to MPH would make a lot more sense because you could launch closer to the powerband.

Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust- You need to understand that his car is not a typical VQ35DE. It has cams and it's powerband has been shifted about 1000rpms higher and it breathes harder and longer in the mid to upper rpms.
 
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Originally Posted by OCG35
I don;t mean just jealous of me (or my wheels)... I mean jealous in general... you constantly comment negatively on other members rides (and that's even what started this in this thread):
^^^obviously sarcasm

You've done it since you became a member... constantly bashing the G in general, then moving on to bashing modded Gs... you simply seem bitter and jealous (just telling you how you come across to me).
yes I bashed peoples cars in the ugly g35 thread which was not started by me and it is a thread dedicated to bashing peoples cars

when I see something I like I say it and when I see something I don't like I say it. What are you even arguing here man? What is it that you think that I think your car can't do because I am really not sure.

The wheel comment wasn't exactly sarcasm, volk CE28s are nicer wheels then kosei ks-t1s so I don't why how thats sarcasm..lol. It was more of a dig that G35 drivers are more concerned with looks and street cred then driving dynamics. I mean I make a harmless joke and you get all offended by it..maybe you should calm down since you obviously don't seem to understand anything I say to you.

Also jealous means I want something they have, I compliment peoples cars who I would be jealous of(pretty sure I have complimented your car on more then one occasion).
 
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The exact point I was going to make. IMO, your cams have sucked out a bit of power in the lower rpms; therefore, effecting the car's 0 to 330' time. After that, the car is sailing and adding lots of MPH. I'd imagine the mph gain in the last 1/8th mile is 23mph+. It's very common for higher strung motors to post relatively high MPHs in relation to a "clean run" 60'. If you had a higher stall torque converter, the ET to MPH would make a lot more sense because you could launch closer to the powerband.

Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust- You need to understand that his car is not a typical VQ35DE. It has cams and it's powerband has been shifted about 1000rpms higher and it breathes harder and longer in the mid to upper rpms.
if that were true his then explain his perfectly normal sounding 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft

they say every .1 in the 60 ft is roughly equal to .2 at the 1/4, so a car that runs 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft would run 13.6-13.7 with a 2.1 60 ft and a better trap speed..possibly even 13.5, not 14.0

the only thing I am arguing here is that his slip is either a track error or he didn't copy it right

this is a 14.0@103

terrible traction, not a 2.1 60 ft..lol

14.1@103 2.4 60 ft

you can't run that time with a clean launch
 

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust
if that were true his then explain his perfectly normal sounding 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft

they say every .1 in the 60 ft is roughly equal to .2 at the 1/4, so a car that runs 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft would run 13.6-13.7 with a 2.1 60 ft and a better trap speed..possibly even 13.5, not 14.0

the only thing I am arguing here is that his slip is either a track error or he didn't copy it right
you keep arguing the same thing - but you arent using clean numbers... I'll post it again:
Originally Posted by OCG35
off)...

As for Famoso comparo - that run was fractions of a second difference (ET was just over 5 one hundredths of a second faster) and trap was less than 1mph slower... 60' under one tenth difference.

Far from the drastic difference you portray it to be. So how is it so unusual at Fontana and not Famoso?...
btw, if you look at the Famoso run you'll see the 1/8 trap speed and ET very meager, but it has the same relative numbers (prior to cams, 9.1 at Irwindale is usually about 79mph, here it was nearly 81pmh)... also 9.1 in the 1/8 rarely would yield high 13s in 1/4 in a VQDE... 9.1 typically is 14.2xx (or slower in some cases).

also, prior to cams/headers I would run 14.1xx-14.2xx at about 100-101 with low 2.2x 60' (much more in line with what you feel is normal)... the car just doesnt run that way these days - the top end is totally different.
 
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but your famoso slip had a worse 60ft then your fontana slip which explains the 9.1.

you are right about the 1/8ths pretty sure my rsx hit a 9.3@79 or 80 with a 2.3x 60 ft and ended up doing 14.3x@99.x. then a pulled a 2.2 and a 9.2 in the 8th but kpro's lean protection was tripped when i shifted to 4th so that ended up being a 14.9@75
 
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust
but your famoso slip had a worse 60ft then your fontana slip which explains the 9.1.

you are right about the 1/8ths pretty sure my rsx hit a 9.3@79 or 80 with a 2.3x 60 ft and ended up doing 14.3x@99.x. then a pulled a 2.2 and a 9.2 in the 8th but kpro's lean protection was tripped when i shifted to 4th so that ended up being a 14.9@75
60' was less than a tenth difference... I used to run 1/8 @ Irwindale at 9.0xx-9.1xx around 79 mph with a 2.2x 60' - now its the same ET at almost 81 mph...

Okay - we've beat this **** to death - there isnt any more to be said really... I've posted slip that is off by only fractions of a second (all areas under a tenth and in some areas of the track less than half a tenth) and within less than 1mph difference. I cant get any more detailed than that.
 
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cool don't really care either way, we both know roughtly how fast your car is so I'm not sure why we are still arguing
 
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust
if that were true his then explain his perfectly normal sounding 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft

they say every .1 in the 60 ft is roughly equal to .2 at the 1/4, so a car that runs 13.9@102 with a 2.2 60 ft would run 13.6-13.7 with a 2.1 60 ft and a better trap speed..possibly even 13.5, not 14.0
Performance is not always consistent between runs, especially if you get a few runs over the span of a few hours. There are so variables that could influence a run. I've run a 14.6@98mph with a mid 2.1 60 foot in my 5AT G. Odd time for sure. The reason why? The tires hit some water about 100' out and I spun badly very badly 2nd. I followed up the next pass with a 14.3@99mph with a mid 2.1 60.
 
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thats true, but he made no indication that something like that happened, all I was saying was that the reason for that time was not the elevation, it had to be something else

more importantly... OCG35, are cams worth it? Did you install them yourself?
 
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead i-Eagle Thrust

more importantly... OCG35, are cams worth it? Did you install them yourself?
no, and no.

At the time no one had done cams and headers only (without full build)... I had some extra time and extra cash so I gave it a try...

I should preface that I met Mike Kojima at an event and we talked briefly about mods beyond basic bolt-ons... he stated he thought there were gains to be had from cams and headers (obviously a common muscle car mod and even back in HS we did this to mini trucks and VW bugs)... there were some gains, but imo definitely not worth the cost (or the time and effort if installing yourself) - not the kind of gains you see in many other cars with the mod.
 
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bummer, you do seem to have some nice trap speeds at least

maybe you need to make it rev higher
 

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no, and no.

At the time no one had done cams and headers only (without full build)... I had some extra time and extra cash so I gave it a try...

I should preface that I met Mike Kojima at an event and we talked briefly about mods beyond basic bolt-ons... he stated he thought there were gains to be had from cams and headers (obviously a common muscle car mod and even back in HS we did this to mini trucks and VW bugs)... there were some gains, but imo definitely not worth the cost (or the time and effort if installing yourself) - not the kind of gains you see in many other cars with the mod.
Mike

Why didnt you do a Torque converter install at the same time as DaveO and Gurgen?
 


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