Is it me or does the throttle feel better when in auto vs manual?
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My best ET/MPHs (14.3s@98-100mph) were done with both auto and manual. I let the car shift the 1-2 itself, then I'd shift the 2-3, and hold 3rd to the finish. I was slower in full auto because the car upshifts out of 3rd way too early (14.6s). In full manual I was slower because the torque management deadens the 1-2 shift too much (14.7s). For whatever reason, torque management isn't engaged when letting the tranny shift the 1-2 itself. The 04.5+ car don't seem to have such a hyperactive TM on the 1-2 shift. All other gears I don't feel TM.
Now that I've got the 3.5 gears, 3rd is only good to 93mph or so. Next time at the strip, I'll let the car shift itself through 3rd and then manually shift into 4th.
On the auto-x, MM is mandatory.
Now that I've got the 3.5 gears, 3rd is only good to 93mph or so. Next time at the strip, I'll let the car shift itself through 3rd and then manually shift into 4th.
On the auto-x, MM is mandatory.
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Guys, I'm not talking about a huge night and day difference in response between MM and auto, but to me it's noticeable. In my car as well as my friend's base 03 5AT sedan, throttle response in MM (auto shifting) during part-throttle driving feels slightly deadened and automatic shifts in MM (auto shifting, talking 03/04 sedans here) feel slightly less direct. During full throttle and full throttle shifts, both modes feel basically the same. To me, around town driving feels a bit more responsive in auto except for the fact that the TCM seeks 5th fairly quickly. When driving around town in MM, I usually leave it in 4th for more response. The improved part-throttle response in auto has me leaving stop lights much quicker than in MM (auto shifting).
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I'm not talking about gears. I'm talking about the responsiveness of the pedal itself. It's more linear like a cable throttle when in auto. In MM, there's a slightly dead spot right at tip-in when starting out in 1st in MM. The pedal response at part-throttle, overall, feel slower in MM than in auto, gear to gear. There's definitely some tuning differences between pedal response in auto and MM, at least in my car. At full throttle above 3800rpms, there's no difference in the pedal response between the two modes. Both will snap my neck in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd if I mash it from a roll.
I'm not talking about gears. I'm talking about the responsiveness of the pedal itself. It's more linear like a cable throttle when in auto. In MM, there's a slightly dead spot right at tip-in when starting out in 1st in MM. The pedal response at part-throttle, overall, feel slower in MM than in auto, gear to gear. There's definitely some tuning differences between pedal response in auto and MM, at least in my car. At full throttle above 3800rpms, there's no difference in the pedal response between the two modes. Both will snap my neck in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd if I mash it from a roll.
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I'm not talking about gears. I'm talking about the responsiveness of the pedal itself. It's more linear like a cable throttle when in auto. In MM, there's a slightly dead spot right at tip-in when starting out in 1st in MM. The pedal response at part-throttle, overall, feel slower in MM than in auto, gear to gear. There's definitely some tuning differences between pedal response in auto and MM, at least in my car. At full throttle above 3800rpms, there's no difference in the pedal response between the two modes. Both will snap my neck in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd if I mash it from a roll.
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