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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Question(s) about dyno tuning

New to the forums, so I thought I'd introduce myself prior to asking my questions. Names Arron, picked up my 06 G35 this past Saturday for $10,500 on the road price. Garnet red base model with AT trans. 101,xxx miles, but it was driven by some lady that did a lot of highway traveling who had traded in the car for a Mercedes. Anyhow, I had been dealing with a dealer on a 01 Lexus LS430 and loved the car (or so I thought), but saw the G35 online the night before and decided to stop first before I went to finalize a deal on the Lexus. Test drove the G, and fell in love. Had a solid connected feeling to it compared to the floating on a cloud boring feeling of the Lexus. Cancelled deal on the Lexus and bought the G35. Plus the G's 5yrs newer. Plan on doing some of the recommended maintenance to the car soon.

Anyhow, now that that's out of the way.

I plan on upgrading the car soon with what people have seemed to note as "basic" mods. Hopefully by next month I'll start upgrading things a little. Maintenance will come first though. One thing that I'm interested in doing is a before and after dyno test and the effects that the mods that will be done to the car will have. Only thing is I'm not sure what to expect when it comes to that. I've read that there's different types of dynos and they read different. This one I'm looking at going to has a Dynojet http://deleonauto.com/DYNOJET.html. Which type would be more accurate? Also, what do you all get charged for dyno runs?

I have some more questions, but I'll save them for later or add them to an existing thread if one's available.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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I believe the Dynojet seems to be closest for the most part, Dynapack is the maker of dreams and the Mustang dyno is the disappointment. With basic Bolt-on's (I,H,E & tune) you can be between 250-275 whp depending on where you live, go with an Osiris tune. Theres not much power to be found on the G for N/A, the system was pretty well designed but theres a little wiggle room. I believe theres only one member (Boostedforlife) who broke the 300 whp mark on N/A. Unfortunately he hasnt posted his mod list or where he got dynoed but I assume it was on a dynapack.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Plenty of people here and over at my350z have broken 300 whp NA
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Really? I have to look into it then because i only found one member on here and dont usually check my350z.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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Pretty sure there are more than a couple on my350z. I know there are some g coupes that have hit it as well. N/A is more than just bolt ons, you realize that right? You can stroke the engine and use high comp pistons to produce some really good results. There's a video on youtube of a g coupe that stroked his 3.5 to a 4.0 and is putting down 377hp and 347 ft/lb. That would be one hell of a ride!

Now if you were referring to 300 whp N/A on bolt ons, then yes, that is a lot harder to do.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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Yes i realize that but his post was based on basic mods, which is intake, headers, exhaust and a tune. Thats the N/A i was referring to and pointing out just in case the OP was thinking he could get 300whp with just that. Sorry for the confusion, i figured my first post was sufficient in laying out the power that he will get from basic bolt ons. Again, boostedfor life hasnt posted his mod list so he could be stroked or not, but i doubt it.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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I'm not trying to argue with anyone, just trying to point some things out. Headers aren't considered basic bolt ons because you pretty much have to pull the engine to install them. I think there is only one bolt on N/A g sedan with headers.

Your original statement was correct. You will not see over 300 whp N/A with basic bolt ons.

Yea I think I boosted's g was dyno'd on a dynapack (inflated #'s). He is probably more around 280-290 whp. Don't quote me on that though.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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re-crue13 thanks for the clarification regarding the differences between the 2 types of dynos. The place I listed in my first post is the only place near me that has a dyno that I know of and I was hoping it would be the better one out of the two. As far as the big HP #'s go, although it would be nice, I'm not really looking for that. Its an overall nice daily car for me. If money allows in the future, I wouldn't mind picking up a Z31 300ZX. Always been kinda fond of those cars.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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I'm not trying to argue with anyone, just trying to point some things out. Headers aren't considered basic bolt ons because you pretty much have to pull the engine to install them. I think there is only one bolt on N/A g sedan with headers.

Your original statement was correct. You will not see over 300 whp N/A with basic bolt ons.

Yea I think I boosted's g was dyno'd on a dynapack (inflated #'s). He is probably more around 280-290 whp. Don't quote me on that though.
I make over 300whp on a DJ

boostedforlife made 294whp on a DJ N/A lol
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyWay
I'm not trying to argue with anyone, just trying to point some things out. Headers aren't considered basic bolt ons because you pretty much have to pull the engine to install them. I think there is only one bolt on N/A g sedan with headers.

Your original statement was correct. You will not see over 300 whp N/A with basic bolt ons.

Yea I think I boosted's g was dyno'd on a dynapack (inflated #'s). He is probably more around 280-290 whp. Don't quote me on that though.
Orly?

I actually made 318 on a dynapac.
And I was still running cat converters.

There are plent of g35 coupons on my 350z making 310-320 whp an on a dynojet with long tube headers

Those guys would make 340-350 on a dynapac


All you all make a dynapac sound like a scam, the style is more accurate in terms of consistencey and of course with out the wheels on you don't show the extra loss to do the wheels weight and frictional mass.


People shouldn't be mislead.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
I make over 300whp on a DJ

boostedforlife made 294whp on a DJ N/A lol
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Orly?

I actually made 318 on a dynapac.
And I was still running cat converters.

There are plent of g35 coupons on my 350z making 310-320 whp an on a dynojet with long tube headers

Those guys would make 340-350 on a dynapac


All you all make a dynapac sound like a scam, the style is more accurate in terms of consistencey and of course with out the wheels on you don't show the extra loss to do the wheels weight and frictional mass.


People shouldn't be mislead.

Mod list for both of you?

OP was talking about basic bolt-ons. Basic. Meaning cheap, easy, functional parts.

Also boosted, have you dyno'd on anything besides a dynapack?

Dyno #'s are meaningless anyways, we all know that right?

All that matters is that you're happy with your car. I dyno'd on a mustang and I'm still happy with the performance of my car, regardless of what a piece of paper says.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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If you read the post above I made 294 on a DJ.........
and 318 on a DP
and se5speed has only bolt ons.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedforlife
If you read the post above I made 294 on a DJ.........
and 318 on a DP
and se5speed has only bolt ons.
I have a VQ35
I have a 4.2 stroker
I have cams
I have heads
I have intake, exhaust, headers, tune.
I have retainers, springs, all valvetrain, I have 1000CC injectors and a A/M fuel pump
I haz E85

I haz 300.2WHP


 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Don't like him troll u, he just hates ppl that likes to talk more about what could be than actually do it.
 
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OP, back to the topic, FYI the topic of your thread is different from what you asked in it. To find out your gain with your bolt-on, you do a dyno run first to get your baseline before the mod; after the mods do another run on the same dyne to find out your gain. Different dynos read differently, as discussed previously, however what you need is the gain value. And then, to take full advantage of your mods, you get a tune, which most of us here recommend dyno tune on the same dyno. Then you'll see from baseline how much you really gain from all your mods. Just to clarify.
 

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