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How to Get from '03 260bhp to '05 298bhp

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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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How to Get from '03 260bhp to '05 298bhp

The '05 6MT output has been upped from 260bhp to 298bhp without an increase in the displacement. Does anyone have any details on how thi sis achieved?

I'd certainly like 298bhp from my '03 if the mods are straightforward.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Edwin
The '05 6MT output has been upped from 260bhp to 298bhp without an increase in the displacement. Does anyone have any details on how thi sis achieved?

I'd certainly like 298bhp from my '03 if the mods are straightforward.
The quickest way is to trade in your '03 to get an '05. Next you could check the salvage yards for a rear end only damaged '05 and swap out the ECU and engine. IMO any kind of mod to do this would be fairly expensive.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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From what I understand, the '05 has variable exhaust timing. Gotta lift up the hood ornament and slide a '05 under it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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The 05 automatic is rated 280hp. The 03 auto sedan is rated at 260hp, but it really is making about 270-275hp or so according to the dynos. The only real change on the autos is the variable exhaust timing which isn't worth much compared to variable intake timing. The 6MT 298hp motors have a 7000rpm limiter in place of the 6600rpm limiter, variable exhaust timing, the engine block is beefed up to handle the extended rpm, and I can only assume the cams are different because the 298hp motors lost 10 ft/lbs of torque (compared to the autos) to gain the extra 18hp. Trading low end torque for higher rpm HP almost always suggests a change in cam shaft lobes.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The only real change on the autos is the variable exhaust timing which isn't worth much compared to variable intake timing.
That is incorrect. No autos have variable exhaust timing at all.

Originally Posted by THX723
That is correct. Only the MT models (Sedan and Coupe) will have the added Exhaust Variable Valve Timing.

For those that are still confused, this has been clearly outlined in one of the *official* Nissan/Infiniti press-release. Some of the lines quoted above are refering to the variable flow muffler that's standard for all sedans.

I was also able to confirmed the above by cross referencing the '05 Engine/ECU service manual.

Finally ... these are the cold hard facts:

For '05 model years ...
- all 6MTs (sedan and coupe) rated at 298hp and have variable valve timing at the Intake AND exhaust side.
- all 5ATs (sedan and coupe) rated at 280hp and have variable valve timing at the Intake side ONLY. The previously detuned 5AT sedan now finally enjoys the same ignition timing maps as the rest of the family ... accounting for the uprated hp.

For '04 model years and prior ...
- all MTs and ATs have variable valve timing at the Intake side ONLY.
- AT/MT coupe and MT sedan have identical ignition timing maps (which btw are also identical to the 350Z ignition maps). This group is rated at 280hp. The MT sedan was never officially rated at 280hp.
- AT sedan has detuned timing maps. It is rated at 260hp.
Proof that only '05 MTs have variable exhaust timing

Original entire thread

Mods, can we make the above thread or at least THX723's posts a sticky? This topic has been coming up way too much.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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According to the 2005 brochure, there is no variable exhaust timing. It is ONLY on the intake valves.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kailep
According to the 2005 brochure, there is no variable exhaust timing. It is ONLY on the intake valves.
Thanks for pointing out that the brochure is wrong.
 
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