Which rubber to use?
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Which rubber to use?
I'm about ready to swap out my OEM crap sneakers and thought I'd get a few suggetions. I'm torn between the Michelin Pilot Sport and Avon M550 and am looking for a little feedback. Price is not the major criteria, but I'm leaning towards the Avon as being the most bang for the buck....No? Any input is appreciated. JBX
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That's always a tough one....
I depends a lot on how you use the car.
Your location; one set all year, or switch out summer & winter etc.
FWIW
I have a set of the new Toyo T1-R on order to replace
my Yoko ES100 from last year. (still on snows right now
)
Obviously can't comment on the Toyos yet but the
Yokos were a good tire for the price, they did get a little
noisy with wear but not terrible, rain perf could have been
a little better.........
All in all a good every day street tire.
I depends a lot on how you use the car.
Your location; one set all year, or switch out summer & winter etc.
FWIW
I have a set of the new Toyo T1-R on order to replace
my Yoko ES100 from last year. (still on snows right now
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Obviously can't comment on the Toyos yet but the
Yokos were a good tire for the price, they did get a little
noisy with wear but not terrible, rain perf could have been
a little better.........
All in all a good every day street tire.
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OEMs
The 04 OEMs were a better tire than the 05 OEMs which are the TL42s which are crap in the snow even with the x model...
The michelin pilot sport a/s seem to get great ratings on tirerack... the 235/50 WR17... I would assume the slightly lower profile will improive handling a bit and this tire is much better in snow, etc.
202.00 a tire though...
The michelin pilot sport a/s seem to get great ratings on tirerack... the 235/50 WR17... I would assume the slightly lower profile will improive handling a bit and this tire is much better in snow, etc.
202.00 a tire though...
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I love my F1-GSD3's. They're pricy but ohmigosh they are SO sticky. 235/50-17's. They look nice too. Check out reviews on tirerack.com to help your decision process but you prolly already knew that.
..If it's just between those two I'd go with the known.. Avon's have had some good reviews but just haven't seen enough people who have had them for long enough to help me make a decision. I've had Pilot Sports before and liked them a lot too. Pilot Sport A/S or Pilot Sport? The Pilot Sport A/S's are nice, the Pilot Sport's (summer tire) are NICE NICE.
..If it's just between those two I'd go with the known.. Avon's have had some good reviews but just haven't seen enough people who have had them for long enough to help me make a decision. I've had Pilot Sports before and liked them a lot too. Pilot Sport A/S or Pilot Sport? The Pilot Sport A/S's are nice, the Pilot Sport's (summer tire) are NICE NICE.
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Originally Posted by mickey3c
The 04 OEMs were a better tire than the 05 OEMs which are the TL42s which are crap in the snow even with the x model...
The michelin pilot sport a/s seem to get great ratings on tirerack... the 235/50 WR17... I would assume the slightly lower profile will improive handling a bit and this tire is much better in snow, etc.
202.00 a tire though...
The michelin pilot sport a/s seem to get great ratings on tirerack... the 235/50 WR17... I would assume the slightly lower profile will improive handling a bit and this tire is much better in snow, etc.
202.00 a tire though...
So, you've got to ask yourself a question when you're popping the 100mph mark, did my tire manufacturer use Aramid (Michelin) or polyester (Avon) cord to hold this tire together? Well, what was it?
I think the G35 deserves an extraordinary tire for the levels of performance it is capable of delivering. That's why I opted for the Michelins. But I for one, have seen the difference between a story that contains "... I almost.." and one that contains "... there wasn't time/space to ..." That difference can be the tires. But, it's up to you to determine your sensitivity to these possibilities.
Regarding mickey3c's suggestion that the 235/50/17 are lower profile. Sorry, the "50" in the tire's spec is the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of the tread width. As such, it has almost the exact same size sidewall as the 215/55/17 tire. That's why it's recommended as a appropriate substitute for the 215/55/17 tire, because it is almost the exact same diameter (both run on the same 17" rim) and as such has almost no difference for the speedo.
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Originally Posted by calejohnson
Michelin tires offer a superb amount of engineering for the modest price of $202/tire. These are probably the most advanced 4 season tires available. Between the three rubber compounds to maximize performance in dry, wet and cold weather conditions, there's the Aramid reinforcements that maintain the tire's shape at high speeds.
So, you've got to ask yourself a question when you're popping the 100mph mark, did my tire manufacturer use Aramid (Michelin) or polyester (Avon) cord to hold this tire together? Well, what was it?
I think the G35 deserves an extraordinary tire for the levels of performance it is capable of delivering. That's why I opted for the Michelins. But I for one, have seen the difference between a story that contains "... I almost.." and one that contains "... there wasn't time/space to ..." That difference can be the tires. But, it's up to you to determine your sensitivity to these possibilities.
Regarding mickey3c's suggestion that the 235/50/17 are lower profile. Sorry, the "50" in the tire's spec is the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of the tread width. As such, it has almost the exact same size sidewall as the 215/55/17 tire. That's why it's recommended as a appropriate substitute for the 215/55/17 tire, because it is almost the exact same diameter (both run on the same 17" rim) and as such has almost no difference for the speedo.
Cale
So, you've got to ask yourself a question when you're popping the 100mph mark, did my tire manufacturer use Aramid (Michelin) or polyester (Avon) cord to hold this tire together? Well, what was it?
I think the G35 deserves an extraordinary tire for the levels of performance it is capable of delivering. That's why I opted for the Michelins. But I for one, have seen the difference between a story that contains "... I almost.." and one that contains "... there wasn't time/space to ..." That difference can be the tires. But, it's up to you to determine your sensitivity to these possibilities.
Regarding mickey3c's suggestion that the 235/50/17 are lower profile. Sorry, the "50" in the tire's spec is the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of the tread width. As such, it has almost the exact same size sidewall as the 215/55/17 tire. That's why it's recommended as a appropriate substitute for the 215/55/17 tire, because it is almost the exact same diameter (both run on the same 17" rim) and as such has almost no difference for the speedo.
Cale
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Originally Posted by mickey3c
As such, it has almost the exact same size sidewall as the 215/55/17 tire.
As you say almost... you are dropping the car a tad and u will not notice a speedo issue...
As you say almost... you are dropping the car a tad and u will not notice a speedo issue...
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You should get what you want but I followed advice given here to get the A/S Pilots and they started out great and turned to crap in about 8k-nosiy&slippery&rough ride. Try the Toyo Proxes 4s 245/45/17s but don't listen to me, someone here will tell you I'm crazy for not being happy with a Michellin product and being rammed in the a$$ on the price of said product.