G35 Sedan V35 2003-06 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Sedan

s2k-are they faster from a roll?

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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If it's a jelly roll, of course. If it's a crescent roll, it could go either way.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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I agree @ BMW 530i, I drive a 1993 BMW 525i, it is just average from 0-60, but from like 70-100, if you just tap on the gas, the thing accelerates so fast. My Father has an 2002 BMW X5 3.0i, it is much faster from 0-60, and the low end torque on that thing is nice, but can not beat the 525i at higher speeds, last but not least, my Mother has an 2002 Infiniti I35, when I say fast from 0-60, I mean GOSH, low end torque is NICE, and high speeds are nice too, fastest thing in the driveway. Father use to have 1993 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbo, with Peter Ferrel four inch exhaust. Fastest thing I have ever driven in my life, and will DEFINITELY beat any G35 Coupe!
Not trying to 1 up anyone, just pointing out a fact-I still have a 95 BMW 540i V8 in a 6spd. and that baby is fast from any speed. It is actually much more responsive when you initially hit the gas than my 05 G35 6 spd. as the G sort of gathers speed rather than the big initial burst. BTW my 540 is for sale and is in great condition if anyone is interested.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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your 540 runs the same times as stock G's though in the 1/4. They are both mid 14's in the quarter. You have 282 Hp, the G's are the same about. You have more torque, but are much heavier. Dont know why you think it is so much faster but....its not. I love the 540's though, and am probably buying my uncles 2002 540 sport when he gets his M6 next spring. You ever take your 540 to the strip to actually get a timeslip?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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your 540 runs the same times as stock G's though in the 1/4. They are both mid 14's in the quarter. You have 282 Hp, the G's are the same about. You have more torque, but are much heavier. Dont know why you think it is so much faster but....its not. I love the 540's though, and am probably buying my uncles 2002 540 sport when he gets his M6 next spring. You ever take your 540 to the strip to actually get a timeslip?
Never said it was faster, I said it was initially more responsive when you first hit the gas. The 0-60 times are 6.2 for the 95 540 (per BMW) and I read somewhere that the G was rated at 5.8.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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I raced one (not sure if new or old) to 60, actually may have been 40, I think he stopped trying at 40. At first I could hear his engine all the way to redline it was so loud. I was maybe half a car length a head at 40 and was pulling a tad bit. But I'm sure once he hit third gear and my torque wore off I'd be saying hello to his tail lights.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Ummm -- having owned both a G35 and a S2000 (highly modded), I guess I am fit to enter into this ridiculous conversation (and have nothing better to do)...

The S2000 (stock) will definitely beat a stock G35 -- any year, rolling, stand still, period. With my modded S2000 it would be a pure joke... With my stock S2000 I was doing 0-60 in 5.5 against a calibrated radar gun... Never had the opportunity to run the modded version past the gun, only with a G-Tech -- not even worth bringing that crap up...

All that being said -- I like the G35 much better...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Ummm -- having owned both a G35 and a S2000 (highly modded), I guess I am fit to enter into this ridiculous conversation (and have nothing better to do)...

The S2000 (stock) will definitely beat a stock G35 -- any year, rolling, stand still, period. With my modded S2000 it would be a pure joke... With my stock S2000 I was doing 0-60 in 5.5 against a calibrated radar gun... Never had the opportunity to run the modded version past the gun, only with a G-Tech -- not even worth bringing that crap up...

All that being said -- I like the G35 much better...

Ok, Then 'splain to me why I ran dead even w/ one on the hwy 80-120, he ddi not outrun me, period. Don't give me the "he was a bad driver" thing. Launching is hard, one down shift, and maybe one up shift is not hard, especially when you are prepared and know you are going to race.

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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S2000 Is Over Rated!.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by harleydood
Ummm -- having owned both a G35 and a S2000 (highly modded), I guess I am fit to enter into this ridiculous conversation (and have nothing better to do)...

The S2000 (stock) will definitely beat a stock G35 -- any year, rolling, stand still, period. With my modded S2000 it would be a pure joke... With my stock S2000 I was doing 0-60 in 5.5 against a calibrated radar gun... Never had the opportunity to run the modded version past the gun, only with a G-Tech -- not even worth bringing that crap up...

All that being said -- I like the G35 much better...
Out of curiousity, did you ever time yourself without a launch?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:11 AM
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Ok, so I actually DID race the S2k from a roll @80. (03.5s auto w/ z tube & kn filter) He was def. an 04/05 stick. He had his top down. It was Dead even-I mean door to door the whole way to 120. Sorry, I thought my winking face would let you all know that this was not so hypothetical.

What was all that crap about BMW's, RX7's, and I35's.....what an idiot.

g4ian
All S2Ks are sticks. Top down makes a huge difference in performance. I can't imagine doing 120 with the top down. I took my S2K up to 138 with the top up and it was pretty noisy.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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S2000 Is Over Rated!.
Have you ever driven one? Can you show me any other $32K roadster that can match its performance?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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This is too much fun so I had to respond yet again...

g4ian -- I cannot explain your ridiculous race as I was not in either car... He may have let off, he may have let you think you were hanging with him, he could suck, you could suck for all I know -- but I don't know... All I am doing is comparing the (2) vehicles as I have owned both as I previously stated -- you have not based on your responses in this thread...

mr_ecktid -- no I did not have the opportunity to time any rolling starts with the gun... I did have the opportunity with the Gtech but those readings are about as reliable as looking at the time piece on your wrist while watching the speedo... I know, I know -- they are fun -- period.

killerlexus -- you don't know what you are talking about obviously...

It is completely obvious that Mr Fireball knows what he talking about when it comes to S2000's... He is completely correct regarding top down peformance -- no surprise why most who are serious about S2000 performance go with a removable hard top... I had a fiberglass top -- the guy who bought it now has a carbon fiber top just for this reason.

It is one of the best cars $32K can buy period -- roadster or non-roadster. It is assmebled along with the NSX and approximately half the cost of the car is in the engine and transmission alone. Automotive authorities from around the world have continuously claimed that the drivetrain is one of the best production units EVER...

I had my S2000 at Summit Point and other tracks (in addition to taking my many other cars to track days) and the S2000 is one of the best track cars in production. That is if you know how to drive them -- the 2.0 models were squirly to say the least... The 2.2 model has mad the cars a bit more "driveable"...

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Interesting you ask but I have this video of a G35 coupe (don't know if it is auto or manual) vs. 2005 S2K pull from various speeds. The S2000 was faster most of the time.
Speaking from experience (having owned a S2000 and now G35 sedan manual), all I can say is that the S2000 has a super strong third gear. From a standstill, you really have to know how to launch it to get good times. The G35 is too new to really push hard yet...

In addition, the S2000 is a true sports car, the G35 sedan is a sports sedan. Let's not even talk about the handling on the S2000...
if only I could buy a sportscar...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by harleydood
This is too much fun so I had to respond yet again...

g4ian -- I cannot explain your ridiculous race as I was not in either car... He may have let off, he may have let you think you were hanging with him, he could suck, you could suck for all I know -- but I don't know... All I am doing is comparing the (2) vehicles as I have owned both as I previously stated -- you have not based on your responses in this thread...

Flame me!!!
harleydood,
First off, I am not sure why you bother to call the race ridiculous. Arm chair racing from magazine stats is ridiculous conjecture. However this is not the case. He didn't let off-of that I am sure. Your right he could suck, but as my last post stated, It not hard to stick the car in third, nod, and then punch it. I HIGHLY doubt that this is case. You say I may suck....how stupid is that. According to the idea that the S2K is faster from a roll, then why would I hang in with him? Add to that, that I am driving auto (actually was in manu-matic mode)-It is almost impossible to screw that up! You state that you have owned both vehicles....whopee!!!! Did you own both at the same time and run them on the highway from a roll @ 80 mph???? You are making your claims based upon no hard evidence of running an S2k (not modded as yours was) against a G35.
I am sure that there are several mitigating factors.... I was running on empty. He did have the top down (that is why I mentioned it in the 1st place) and I am sure that does effect drag, especially at 100+mph. He could have had a full tank.
I totally agree that the S2k is a superb and true sports car, with more potential than a G35s on at track, But on that day and time, under the above mentioned circumstance, my G35 was a fast as the S2k that I ran against. Period. The end.

g4ian
 
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by g4ian
Ok, hypothetically speaking who would win.... An auto G35s w/ only z tube and kn filter vs. an 04/05 S2k stick from a roll starting at about 80 and maybe going up to around 120?
I think it would be about dead even

g4ian

I've raced the S2k starting at 80mph ... and ... going up to 120 .. i think .. at about 110mph .. i had him atleast by 3 cars.
 
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