Why I love my G more than my old BMW!
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08-01-2005, 03:42 PM
If the 330i With sport, premium, and Cold weather packages was about $34000 most of us would have had a hard time deciding between it and our beloved G35.
Totally agree .... but it's not, so we don't.
On the used BMW comparo, you can knock off $5-10K for a used BMW, but then do the same for an 03/04 G
Totally agree .... but it's not, so we don't.
On the used BMW comparo, you can knock off $5-10K for a used BMW, but then do the same for an 03/04 G
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Originally Posted by Downtown
To each his own. If your 330i sport felt slow, you may have had some performance issues. I've never driven a more balanced vehicle under 45K. However, I love the sweet power of the G. I may purchase a slightly used 330i ZHP. I love the short throw easy to shift machine. You're connected w/ the road.
The most balanced vehicle I've driven was a boxster S.
The most balanced vehicle I've driven was a boxster S.
The Infiniti is better.
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08-01-2005, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtown
The G is flat out awesome! We all know that, that's why were on this board (most of us). However, if the BMW 330i Loaded Sport/Premium were the same price as the G, none of us would have a G (Ok, maybe a few of us would).
At 5-10K less the G wins hands down. I'm considering a 330i ZHP ('04 or '05), cuz the price is more competitive. No other reason. I can assure you. The ZHP will keep up w/ a g35 6MT, no problem. It's 0-60 is below 6, just like the 6mt G. But it's suspension is better, and it fits you like a glove. It's the closest you can get to a M3 sedan right now (from Beemer). It's also got a sweeter exhaust note.
At 5-10K less the G wins hands down. I'm considering a 330i ZHP ('04 or '05), cuz the price is more competitive. No other reason. I can assure you. The ZHP will keep up w/ a g35 6MT, no problem. It's 0-60 is below 6, just like the 6mt G. But it's suspension is better, and it fits you like a glove. It's the closest you can get to a M3 sedan right now (from Beemer). It's also got a sweeter exhaust note.
This is from personal experience after putting approx. 40K miles on my ZHP before trading up to the G
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08-01-2005, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
I wouldn't drive a BMW if you gave it to me. I'd sell it and buy something that you didn't see 450 ba-zillion of everyday.
Disagree - the 05 G Sedan exhaust note makes the 330 sound like a kiddie car.
Disagree - the 05 G Sedan exhaust note makes the 330 sound like a kiddie car.
Exhuast note: True on base/sports models. The ZHP, however, sounds sportier than the G-6MT.
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08-01-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtown
True, you do see a lot of regular base model 330, and their 328, 323, and 325 counterparts. But you do not see a lot of 330i Sports, and the 330i ZHP is almost rare.
I'm with you on the base model. Looks outdated, and boring. The ZHP does not.
The 330i ZHP exhaust note is not the same as the other 330i.
Maybe you wouldn't buy one, but those on here who know what a BMW is, would definitely consider it. Especially if it was the same price as a G.
I'm with you on the base model. Looks outdated, and boring. The ZHP does not.
The 330i ZHP exhaust note is not the same as the other 330i.
Maybe you wouldn't buy one, but those on here who know what a BMW is, would definitely consider it. Especially if it was the same price as a G.
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08-01-2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
I tend to agree with Downtown on this. If the 330i With sport, premium, and Cold weather packages was about $34000 most of us would have had a hard time deciding between it and our beloved G35. However, the fact remains that the 06 330i is between $43K(Manual no Nav) and $47K(Automatic Nav) when properly equipped. That is between $10K and $14K above what I paid for my loaded(except no Nav) Automatic G35. There is simply not anything they could do to the 330i to make me spend an extra 10K on it. Much less an extra $14K. The 330i is a very nice car that is simply $10K over priced. I am sorry most of us just don’t have 10 grand to throw away. Apparently, there are thousands of 330i owners who do though? The only reason I bought my 02 330i in the first place was because it was 1 year old with 9K miles on it. The original sticker was $41K and I bought it for $32500. Like I said before take ~$10K off the sticker and then it makes it a tough decision. Nothing like a new car though!
In my humble opinion - in order for the 330i (ZHP) to be even considered against the G-6MT it would have to MSRP at $5K less than the G and have an immaculate maintenance track.
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08-01-2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
Know what a BMW is? WTF does that mean?
I know exactly what a 330 ZHP is, as well as what other BMWs are. Don't think my lack of appreciation for the brand is based in ignorance. Quite the contrary. I'm on a Navy base filled with a couple of THOUSAND military flight students who all think they're Tom Cruise. The base is crawling with BMWs. I've driven them all - 540 Dinans, M3s, 740s, etc. I don't see what all the hoopla is about. They are all very nice, very overpriced cars.
Again, if you gave me one I'd sell it and buy something I appreciate.
'Understanding what a BMW is' has nothing to do with it. I understand 'what they are' and I'm not so impressed that they would be on my short list. When I bought my G I could have easily afforded a smattering of different BMWs. No thank you very much.
I know exactly what a 330 ZHP is, as well as what other BMWs are. Don't think my lack of appreciation for the brand is based in ignorance. Quite the contrary. I'm on a Navy base filled with a couple of THOUSAND military flight students who all think they're Tom Cruise. The base is crawling with BMWs. I've driven them all - 540 Dinans, M3s, 740s, etc. I don't see what all the hoopla is about. They are all very nice, very overpriced cars.
Again, if you gave me one I'd sell it and buy something I appreciate.
'Understanding what a BMW is' has nothing to do with it. I understand 'what they are' and I'm not so impressed that they would be on my short list. When I bought my G I could have easily afforded a smattering of different BMWs. No thank you very much.
Exactly
This short sentence says it all.
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08-02-2005, 12:36 AM
I have an 03 325iT now but will be getting an 06 coupe. In terms of value, it ain't close - the g is just a better deal. Now, if we want to talk handling, I think the BMW handles a bit better. With the 06 Changes, the two brands are pretty much on par feature wise (Bluetooth, seat memory, Bi-Xenon's, etc.) if we want to talk manual transmissions, I like the clutch & shifting in the G - the BMW just has a sloppy loose clutch and a long throw (at least stock.)
I think a G 6MT and a ZHP manual will be pretty close, on the track and in real life. I like hte balance of the BMW better in terms of handling, IMO. However, I don't like it 10k more.
Oh, and the BMW nav (and iDrive!) both really suck.
I think a G 6MT and a ZHP manual will be pretty close, on the track and in real life. I like hte balance of the BMW better in terms of handling, IMO. However, I don't like it 10k more.
Oh, and the BMW nav (and iDrive!) both really suck.
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
My wife......despises my G35. I just can't figure it out. The G35 is better in every single category but she just refuses to like it.