Wide Tires
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Wide Tires
I know that this has probably been kicked here to death...but, what is the widest tire size that I could put on my non-lowered G-sedan with stock 17" Sport package wheels...and have no problems with rubbing? How about on 18" wheels?
I am financially challenged right now, but need some tires, so it'll probably be the 17" deal for now. I'm looking at Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S.
Thanks...
I am financially challenged right now, but need some tires, so it'll probably be the 17" deal for now. I'm looking at Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S.
Thanks...
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Originally Posted by davistld01
I know that this has probably been kicked here to death...but, what is the widest tire size that I could put on my non-lowered G-sedan with stock 17" Sport package wheels...and have no problems with rubbing? How about on 18" wheels?
I am financially challenged right now, but need some tires, so it'll probably be the 17" deal for now. I'm looking at Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S.
Thanks...
I am financially challenged right now, but need some tires, so it'll probably be the 17" deal for now. I'm looking at Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S.
Thanks...
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Thanks, doogie. Are you saying that the 17x7" wheels on my car won't handle the P-Zero's sufficiently because they are too narrow?
BTW...didn't we talk a while back about me moving from Denton, TX. to the midwest? I've been gone for over a year now. Is there an Infiniti dealership there now?
BTW...didn't we talk a while back about me moving from Denton, TX. to the midwest? I've been gone for over a year now. Is there an Infiniti dealership there now?
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Personally, I think 235 is as wide as you'd want to go on the stock 7" wheels, and even that's pushing it. I just replaced my stock tires with 235/50/17 on the OE rims. It's OK, but I think they would look and perform better on at least 7 1/2" rims. Although I haven't seen 245's on these rims, I think they'd balloon a little and performance would suffer slightly. Just my opinion....
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I just went from 245s to 235s and I have to say the 245s definitely provided more traction and the car responded much more 'solidly'. I think which 245 will work will really depend a lot on the quality of the sidewall and whether it's rounded or straight. Here is a pic of 245s on my car:
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(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
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Originally Posted by doogie
I just went from 245s to 235s and I have to say the 245s definitely provided more traction and the car responded much more 'solidly'. I think which 245 will work will really depend a lot on the quality of the sidewall and whether it's rounded or straight. Here is a pic of 245s on my car:
![](http://www.astralprojection.com/forums/freshalloy/images/IMG_1852.JPG)
(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
looks pretty similiar to how mine look on the sport 17's. Glad to see that, since I was worried a little about the tire sticking too far out from the rim.
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Originally Posted by doogie
On the stock 17" wheels which are 17x7, 245 is about the widest you'd want to go. For the required rim width, look at the tires on tirerack and click the "specs" link, specifically at "rim width range". The 245/45/17 P-Zeros recommend a rim width between 7.5" and 9". I had Eagle F1's on my stock rims in that size, and for those tires the specs stated the same thing. I had no problems. Anything wider than 245 and I think you're going to run into problems, not with rubbing, but with poor handling and treadwear.
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Originally Posted by doogie
I just went from 245s to 235s and I have to say the 245s definitely provided more traction and the car responded much more 'solidly'. I think which 245 will work will really depend a lot on the quality of the sidewall and whether it's rounded or straight. Here is a pic of 245s on my car:
![](http://www.astralprojection.com/forums/freshalloy/images/IMG_1852.JPG)
(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
(Eagle F1-GSD3's). They worked great. I do agree that 235 is the 'ideal' size, but you CAN do 245s. I had those tires for 15k before they wore out (completely evenly across the tread I might add)
And davistld01, Grubbs in Euless is my "local" dealership, so no.. not really local but it's only a 40 minute drive, and close to work.
Little confused here - please clarify.
Several people (on this and similar posts) have said that 245's on 7" wide rims are too wide - something to the effect that they will "bulge" too much, and the sidewall will "flex" too much due to it's unnaturally bulged state.
You said you just went from the 245's to 235's and that the 245's "definitely provided more traction and the car responded much more 'solidly' ". Further in the post, you confirmed your new tires (235's) were "Wide Ovals", so do you attribute the difference in grip and 'solidity' to the higher quality and better design of the Eagle's (245's) vs. the Wide Ovals (235's), or just to their being 10 mm wider? What about the reported greater sidewall "flex" due to the bulging of the 245's? By the way, looks like the Eagles you had would be categorized as "straight edged" right?
Would have been ideal if you'd just switched to the same Eagles in 235 size, then we'd be comparing apples to apples, too. Of course, if I'd have provided you a new set of Eagle 235's, I'm sure you'd have been glad to give us the better comparison
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I realize the gist of your post was to say that 245's can work on the 7" rims, and work well (also wear evenly - vitally important!), valuable input that I appreciate. I'm ready for new tires soon, and have been torn between going with the Eagles in 235/50 vs. 245/50 sizes. I'm always a believer in putting the maximum tread width on the road for any vehicle I drive, but also realize that at some point you can go beyond optimum and actually decrease the overall performance of the car with a tire that is too big for the rim. Your 245's really didn't look to bulge too much in your photos, though. Hell - now the decision is harder than ever.
Has anyone gone from 235's to 245's (or vice-versa) with the same type tire (design, compound, & tread pattern) on a stock 7" G35 rim ?? Interested in knowing the differences, if any, in ride, handling response, noise, overall performance, etc., etc. Any input in this matter would be appreciated, G35 Drivers (I'll accept "butt dyno" reviews, sans "proof" with skidpad and slalom numbers, even
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