05 5AT mods
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Originally Posted by trey's wife
DaveB - I saved this earlier because I knew there would come a time when I feel the need to call it out. Stop assuming you are the only one with the experience that you speak of. Do I believe you have it? Yeah. Do I think you and the few others you mention are the only ones? Absolutely not.
Originally Posted by trey's wife
You have attacked DaveO as an editor and made a few snippy remarks in this thread about not being a magazine editor. I have a question for you - Have you ever read one of his articles? Can you prove *anything* he has said as wrong - with something other than opinion?
No, I haven't read one of his magazine articles, but I've read many of his "article" style threads in here. Sorry, I'm not impressed and no one is going to change my mind about it. Most of his articles are based on G-techs, butt-dynos, and some hit and miss datalogging. On any other site, if he brought that kind of data collection to the table, he'd be reamed. I swear, every mod this guy tests seems to work nicely and has no side effects. That makes me very critical because not every mod is perfect. I've been doing this way too long to know that. I'll be the first one to tell I did brand "X" mod and it didn't do what it was advertized to do. I'll probably also be able to give some honest track and dyno data to along with it too.
Originally Posted by trey's wife
You do not have an '05 so let's just face the fact that your information is opinion or at least your opinion of the source of any information you have gotten. Guess what - I don't have an '05 AT. Know what that means - I wouldn't post anything on this thread - especially without expressly stating that it was an OPINION. Whether it is founded in logic or not, it is not gospel. If you would like to question anything these guys have said on the engines of the '04 or the '05 being different in these cars vs. the beloved Maxima let me know - I have the factory service manual and I would be THRILLED to look it up for you!
Face it, most guys on here don't know a lot about cars. That's not a shot at them. It's simply fact. They're not ignorant. They're not idiots. They just don't know.
Originally Posted by OCG35
Rumor has it something similar happened on a Maxima forum... but apparently the "persecuting" was being done by the crowd that feels slighted here
Originally Posted by OCG35
I don't think anyone goes out of their way to stir things up with you - but it does seem visa versa... That's why you have received the backlash that you have at times. There aren't very many (if any) posts by you that don't constantly and relentlessly contradict, belittle and demean what is posted.
All I can say is expect more of the same from me in the future. I have yet to receive any sort of warning or a ban from the staff here. I know there are certain members requesting that I be banned though. I guess we'll see what happens.
Originally Posted by OCG35
No one (few anyway) will dispute credible and subjective alternative views, but when an adverse opinion is flawed by misnomers and half-truths the opinion may meet resistance.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I have browsed though some dynos and one member was even kind enough to post his dyno of some specific mods. But my point is if one is going to flat out say xx mod is "proven" to make xx+ hp, it's common courtesy to back that specific statement with a dyno that proves it. Otherwise it's just talk.
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Another shot across my bow that apparently cannot warrant a return fire.
If that is your feeling, you need to talk to Russ, not me Every mod according to him is 10-15hp at least.
Now before the g-gangbang continues, I NEVER said mods didn't work. As my VE30DE is heavily modded. As is Dave B's old VQ30 maxima. If I WERE state "xx" mod is worth "xx" hp, I'd have the courtesy to provide the data to support it. Clearly that is a foreign concept to you.
Originally Posted by OCG35
Mods don't work - there's no data, no proof... just a waste
Now before the g-gangbang continues, I NEVER said mods didn't work. As my VE30DE is heavily modded. As is Dave B's old VQ30 maxima. If I WERE state "xx" mod is worth "xx" hp, I'd have the courtesy to provide the data to support it. Clearly that is a foreign concept to you.
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If you want some concrete proof what the real story is, I have the links ready to post if you wish. But if you say "yes" do NOT and I mean do NOT blame me for what takes place after.
Originally Posted by OCG35
Rumor has it something similar happened on a Maxima forum... but apparently the "persecuting" was being done by the crowd that feels slighted here
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Originally Posted by DaveB
No, I haven't read one of his magazine articles, but I've read many of his "article" style threads in here. Sorry, I'm not impressed and no one is going to change my mind about it. Most of his articles are based on G-techs, butt-dynos, and some hit and miss datalogging. On any other site, if he brought that kind of data collection to the table, he'd be reamed. I swear, every mod this guy tests seems to work nicely and has no side effects. That makes me very critical because not every mod is perfect. I've been doing this way too long to know that. I'll be the first one to tell I did brand "X" mod and it didn't do what it was advertized to do. I'll probably also be able to give some honest track and dyno data to along with it too.
Don't question him as an editor unless you have read his stuff and have something to back it up. Not just the fact that it is slander to him but the fact that it is hurtful to the magazine and therefore other people's reputations.
Originally Posted by DaveB
Face it, most guys on here don't know a lot about cars. That's not a shot at them. It's simply fact. They're not ignorant. They're not idiots. They just don't know.
I have no personal issues with you. I have no history to cloud my opinions. I have said before that I will give you your due on many things. I personally have found the way you present many of your posts to be "this is gospel" in the way they come across. If you don't know 100% for certain about something you should make that clear. Make clear that "__" is your opinion and it is based on this information. Just a suggestion and a statement of how things come across. Take it for what you will.
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Originally Posted by Driver72
What would be fun is to get a meet at various different tracks with 03/04 cars as well as 05's and compare. Of course, to be fair, cars would have to be basically stock or with the exact same mods for comparison purposes.
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
I've raced a buddy with a vortech on his z. He proved the vortech worked...
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If you want some concrete proof what the real story is, I have the links ready to post if you wish. But if you say "yes" do NOT and I mean do NOT blame me for what takes place after.
Like I said, trying to start trouble as always Jeff.
And PS, he wasn't talking about that. He was talking about your history with the rest of a few of you.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If that is your feeling, you need to talk to Russ, not me Every mod according to him is 10-15hp at least.
Ahhh thats what I thought, you can't prove yourself as usual. So you make blank statements like this.
Oh yea, 30 sec rule... Laterz.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Ah you mean the maxima boys side of the story that was blown out of proportion. lol. And a good portion of it is not true. OLD news from cry babies. 4 years ago. And your still trying to push it.
Like I said, trying to start trouble as always Jeff.
Like always Russ, you are 100% oblivous to what is going on. I wasn't even PART of this thread until someone called my name out for some unknown reason.
And PS, he wasn't talking about that. He was talking about your history with the rest of a few of you.
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Sorry if I had copyrighted material that needed to be taken down and it wasn't.
Edit: Why are you here in the first place? You don't own a G35! You are here because your "friends" DaveB, BrianV, and so on told you about this happening in OT section of maxima.org. I know you guys are bad mouthing all about this since I do have a IN in that section with someone I know on maxima.org.
[QUOTE=Jeff92se]Threats of a lawsuit and emails to the site provider is "blowing it out of proportion"?
Edit: Why are you here in the first place? You don't own a G35! You are here because your "friends" DaveB, BrianV, and so on told you about this happening in OT section of maxima.org. I know you guys are bad mouthing all about this since I do have a IN in that section with someone I know on maxima.org.
[QUOTE=Jeff92se]Threats of a lawsuit and emails to the site provider is "blowing it out of proportion"?
Like I said, trying to start trouble as always Jeff.[/qluote]
Like always Russ, you are 100% oblivous to what is going on. I wasn't even PART of this thread until someone called my name out for some unknown reason.
What in the Lord's name does that statement mean? I have NO history with anyone here other than the fact the some here just happen to own a maxima before. As far as I knew, I called all the previous owners friends.
Like always Russ, you are 100% oblivous to what is going on. I wasn't even PART of this thread until someone called my name out for some unknown reason.
What in the Lord's name does that statement mean? I have NO history with anyone here other than the fact the some here just happen to own a maxima before. As far as I knew, I called all the previous owners friends.
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Like always, starting trouble. Since when do YOU get to ask for proof? You have repeatedly NOT supplied proof of various claims. Namely flaming Dave. Now please explain how you can NOT provide any proof then in the very same thread, DEMAND proof of someone else??
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Really? Where do I say this without backing my claims?
Ahhh thats what I thought, you can't prove yourself as usual. So you make blank statements like this.
Oh yea, 30 sec rule... Laterz.
Ahhh thats what I thought, you can't prove yourself as usual. So you make blank statements like this.
Oh yea, 30 sec rule... Laterz.