Nissan is in big trouble? Care to elaborate more? I know the sales are slowly dropping but anything other than that?

 

sales haven't really dropped that much except for the Q45 dinosaur

 

I got my '06 G35 sedan there in April and got a better price there than from any other Bay area dealer. I had no issues dealing with them and dealt directly with the manager for my purchase. I do agree though that the response you received was uacceptable.

 

It's good to know that Infiniti of Oakland isn't 100% unacceptable. Maybe I'll leverage off that e-mail and see if I can work directly with the manager. I was hoping to avoid all sales people and communicate only with the internet/fleet manager. Here's the GM's response -- very professional, 'cept I didn't like the word "counsel" too much. I was hoping for "I'll beat the crap out of him!".

 

Awesome, as you mentioned you should use that as part of your leverage. Fact is these cars won't be going for MSRP from day 1.

I doubt it will amount to much in the way of "counselling", but at least it'll be mentioned. Using that kind of sarcastic tone with a potential client is ridiculous. Were it me I'd have written them off entirely.

 

Here's more information from the same GM for anyone wanting a test drive in the Bay Area:

 

I'm a manager myself, and my management gut says this isn't something to simply shrug off...doesn't change the fact that the G35S looks like a really nice car, but business is business, selling it at list is a death knell.

"The Infiniti Division posted a sales decline of 26.4 percent versus the prior year."


http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...01/020574.html

Nissan's U.S. sales are down 7 percent through August. Operating profits fell more than 25 percent in the most recent quarter.

http://www.sunjournal.com/index.php?storyid=176882

 

Infiniti has a lot to gain with the 2007 Infiniti G35. Selling the vehicle at list price or close to it won't help the situation.

 

He was just telling you what he saw in his dream.

 

The G represents a large share of the Infiniti lineup sales. It's natural for their sales to decline at the end of the generation with the new one on the way. The new sedan will no doubt improve the G volume.

Nissan now has the new Versa (which is doing very well), the new Altima and new Sentra coming in the next month or so. Their 4th quarter is expected to be very strong.

 

They do need it, Infiniti especially. FX sales are slumping, M sales are holding, but the Q and QX are total dogs. It's a shame Infiniti won't be getting the GTR.

 

^ I read somewhere the QX may be dropped and there will be a new SUV around the Murano size coming out.

 

You're right, with the new G35 and upcoming revamp of the Z, as well as other products, things should get better. I just kind of cringe when cars are sold below invoice (like the 2k6 G35), it just means that things aren't great, or the list is so inflated that the cars sell like that. I just think it's not a good philosophy because those who don't drive a hard bargain get really burned. That's why I wouldn't want to pay list on a 2k7, just too much is unknown and with the track record, I'd feel better getting a discount.

 

Update: So the GM wrote to me today and claims that this is their last "order bank" day where they can order/customize models for Nov. Whether this is true or not, she offered to take down my order without a deposit, then we'll discuss pricing later -- with no obligation to purchase when the car arrives. She either believes that I really do want to do business with her, or she's just bluffing. I think it's the former, but can you ever really trust salespeople, especially someone whom you've never dealt with?

Either way, I've ordered a Lakeshore Slate 6MT with Premium, Nav, splash guards, and cargo net. We'll see what happens!

 

Guys,

Infiniti of Fairfield may be the only dealer to admit that we will sell for less than MSRP. I'm not saying that 2007's will be sold at invoice, but we will definately not be holding our customer's feet to the fire with MSRP or over MSRP that some of the Bay Area dealers are pulling.

Please PM me if your interested in any new or pre-owned Infiniti or Volvo. We also offer very aggressive pricing on aftermarket and OEM Infiniti parts.

Furthermore, we will be hosting a G/Z meet at our dealership in the coming weeks.

-Infiniti of Fairfield