Technical observations of the 07
#1
Technical observations of the 07
This is not a review(I've already posted my review elsewhere); I just wanted to start some discussion on some things I noticed about the new car.
First, when I opened the hood(yay hood dampers), there were a few things I noticed. Like people have pointed out, the dipstick is now logically placed. That's cool. And like the pictures have also shown, there's really very little room for a strut brace(though I'm pretty sure this new model doesn't need it as badly as the current model). The shock towers are pretty deep in the compartment; there are obstructions around the towers, like the intake tubes. Any strut brace would have to climb quite a ways vertically before extending over the engine.
Another thing I noticed was the hood liner. It's quite thick. I didn't try to inspect it much; I don't know if it's hollow, or just foam, or what. I assume it's there to quiet down noises from the engine compartment.
Another thing I noticed was the size of the airboxes and intake tubes. Fortunately, there are no baffles in the tubes like the stock g-tube. But they appear to be quite a bit smaller in diameter than the current tube. And although I didn't open the airboxes to inspect the air filters, they also appeared to be smaller than the current panel filters. In a way, this size reduction makes sense. But I'd be curious to see what the dimensions are of the throttle bodies; if the throttle bodies(and necks onto the plenum) are larger than the intake tubes, then there's a possibility to change out the filters, tubes, and maf housings for larger components. I'm sure JWT is already researching this.
And the last thing I noticed was quite a shocker. I got on the ground and looked underneath the car. I saw the cats, and noticed that they connect to a y-pipe! Everything I've read has stated that the exhaust is a true-dual system with an xpipe. Not this model. Each cat connects to a pipe, and those pipes join to a single unit. A few inches past the join, is the terminal flange. After the flange is a midpipe that has a strong resemblance to the stock 03/04 suitcase midpipe; except that this piece has two exits. Maybe this is the supposed xpipe. I don't know. Also, I might be mistaken; after all, I didn't get to look at it while on a lift, and my perspective wasn't optimal. If, however, the car retains a ypipe, then it is quite a surprise indeed.
First, when I opened the hood(yay hood dampers), there were a few things I noticed. Like people have pointed out, the dipstick is now logically placed. That's cool. And like the pictures have also shown, there's really very little room for a strut brace(though I'm pretty sure this new model doesn't need it as badly as the current model). The shock towers are pretty deep in the compartment; there are obstructions around the towers, like the intake tubes. Any strut brace would have to climb quite a ways vertically before extending over the engine.
Another thing I noticed was the hood liner. It's quite thick. I didn't try to inspect it much; I don't know if it's hollow, or just foam, or what. I assume it's there to quiet down noises from the engine compartment.
Another thing I noticed was the size of the airboxes and intake tubes. Fortunately, there are no baffles in the tubes like the stock g-tube. But they appear to be quite a bit smaller in diameter than the current tube. And although I didn't open the airboxes to inspect the air filters, they also appeared to be smaller than the current panel filters. In a way, this size reduction makes sense. But I'd be curious to see what the dimensions are of the throttle bodies; if the throttle bodies(and necks onto the plenum) are larger than the intake tubes, then there's a possibility to change out the filters, tubes, and maf housings for larger components. I'm sure JWT is already researching this.
And the last thing I noticed was quite a shocker. I got on the ground and looked underneath the car. I saw the cats, and noticed that they connect to a y-pipe! Everything I've read has stated that the exhaust is a true-dual system with an xpipe. Not this model. Each cat connects to a pipe, and those pipes join to a single unit. A few inches past the join, is the terminal flange. After the flange is a midpipe that has a strong resemblance to the stock 03/04 suitcase midpipe; except that this piece has two exits. Maybe this is the supposed xpipe. I don't know. Also, I might be mistaken; after all, I didn't get to look at it while on a lift, and my perspective wasn't optimal. If, however, the car retains a ypipe, then it is quite a surprise indeed.
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Yes, they do. At least from what I can recall.
And that pisses me off. I've seen those pictures plenty of times before, but I never put 2 and 2 together. That is *not* an xpipe configuration. That is a ypipe, just like the current ypipe. After the merge, the pipe continues for maybe another foot; 6 inches at least. It then ends in a flange. After that is that suitcase looking thing with two exits.
If you look at the underneath-car picture, you can see the two exit pipes connecting to the midpipe/resonator section(I only assume it's a resonator). I don't know where the separation actually resumes; no one will know until that section is removed and opened up. But if look at the exhaust diagram(lower photo).
The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
And that pisses me off. I've seen those pictures plenty of times before, but I never put 2 and 2 together. That is *not* an xpipe configuration. That is a ypipe, just like the current ypipe. After the merge, the pipe continues for maybe another foot; 6 inches at least. It then ends in a flange. After that is that suitcase looking thing with two exits.
If you look at the underneath-car picture, you can see the two exit pipes connecting to the midpipe/resonator section(I only assume it's a resonator). I don't know where the separation actually resumes; no one will know until that section is removed and opened up. But if look at the exhaust diagram(lower photo).
The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Yes, they do. At least from what I can recall.
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The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
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The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
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The hood liner is probably so thick because it is manufactured with a flame-retardent material, in case the engine ever catches fire, the little devices that hold that liner melt, releasing the liner and it blankets the engine to help put the fire out.
That's what they are supposed to do, anyway. Most modern cars have a fire-retardent hood liner for this reason. An added benefit is noise reduction.
That's what they are supposed to do, anyway. Most modern cars have a fire-retardent hood liner for this reason. An added benefit is noise reduction.
#9
Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Yes, they do. At least from what I can recall.
And that pisses me off. I've seen those pictures plenty of times before, but I never put 2 and 2 together. That is *not* an xpipe configuration. That is a ypipe, just like the current ypipe. After the merge, the pipe continues for maybe another foot; 6 inches at least. It then ends in a flange. After that is that suitcase looking thing with two exits.
If you look at the underneath-car picture, you can see the two exit pipes connecting to the midpipe/resonator section(I only assume it's a resonator). I don't know where the separation actually resumes; no one will know until that section is removed and opened up. But if look at the exhaust diagram(lower photo).
The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
And that pisses me off. I've seen those pictures plenty of times before, but I never put 2 and 2 together. That is *not* an xpipe configuration. That is a ypipe, just like the current ypipe. After the merge, the pipe continues for maybe another foot; 6 inches at least. It then ends in a flange. After that is that suitcase looking thing with two exits.
If you look at the underneath-car picture, you can see the two exit pipes connecting to the midpipe/resonator section(I only assume it's a resonator). I don't know where the separation actually resumes; no one will know until that section is removed and opened up. But if look at the exhaust diagram(lower photo).
The lower picture depicts two discreet resonators, with nothing joining them. The underneath car picture indicates otherwise. So I must ask, what is the purpose of that connecting area? Is is there just for support and structural integrity?
The BMW 335 has a H-pipe that joins the two mufflers, and I understand that's a true dual setup as each set of 3 cyl/turbo gets its own piping. It was explained to me that the H equalizes the pressure.
So....from what I understand, the G35 is a true dual.
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Originally Posted by John105
From what I know, and it may not be much, the 2k7 G35 does have true duals. I was told exhaust can mix and separate. The point is, is the config like a Camry or Accord where you basically have one system, but do a Y at the end and slap on two mufflers? Or do you have two cats.
The BMW 335 has a H-pipe that joins the two mufflers, and I understand that's a true dual setup as each set of 3 cyl/turbo gets its own piping. It was explained to me that the H equalizes the pressure.
So....from what I understand, the G35 is a true dual.
The BMW 335 has a H-pipe that joins the two mufflers, and I understand that's a true dual setup as each set of 3 cyl/turbo gets its own piping. It was explained to me that the H equalizes the pressure.
So....from what I understand, the G35 is a true dual.
The '07 G appears to be Y'd into a single section & then breaks apart again.
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#11
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
I agree to a point, but an H or X section does not funnel the exhaust gasses though a single section of pipe.
The '07 G appears to be Y'd into a single section & then breaks appart again.
To me this is not true dual
The '07 G appears to be Y'd into a single section & then breaks appart again.
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Originally Posted by chilibowl
Who cares if its not a full true dual system? Car is fast as hell in stock form. You know what that means? An aftermarket "TRUE DUAL" will release some of the very little to none restriction this exhaust has and create more power. Add some hi-flows and your cookin....
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I couldn't get a good shot of the G's belly, but here they are... (click here for larger-sized Flickr pics)
Something was dripping in that second pic... lol
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Something was dripping in that second pic... lol
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