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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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3 hp at 60 MPH

Can anyone conform that the "Ram Air" is in fact functional? I asked this a while back but didn't really get an answer. I haven't popped the hood on the new G yet, but has anyone looked through the grill for any duct work or direct piping?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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And what will 3hp give you exactly?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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And what will 3hp give you exactly?
I'm sure its functional. Like Speed said, you aren't going to notice 3hp. If Infiniti had claimed 15+hp at 60mph, then I would start looking under the hood for functionality.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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I don't doubt it, its not a HUGE increase in power. The vehicle does have two air filters both with there own inlet and outlet into independent throttle bodies, sounds like the right mix to gain hp with higher air flow. But I don't think there is a way we can really test this, unless someone wants to put a dyno on a truck and drive down the road at 60 with a G35 on it
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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When I saw an 07, the first thing I looked at was the air boxes. There is indeed a square scoop that protrudes from the air box to right behind the very left and right side of the grill. Going at 60mph would produce a ram air effect so you could gain a few extra hp at high speeds.

The weird thing though is that on the 07s the grill somewhat twists towards the end so it closes up. You could probably get a stronger ram air effect if that part of the grill was wide open.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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I wasn't debating the fact that you would feel 3 hp, you absolutely would not. My question was weather or not there was in fact any tubing or duct work below the airbox aimed at the font grill. Badtziscool, thanks for the answer.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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I'm sure its functional. Like Speed said, you aren't going to notice 3hp. If Infiniti had claimed 15+hp at 60mph, then I would start looking under the hood for functionality.
Thats not the whole story. You have to factor in the area under the curve. Max may be +3 but all other places hp/toq may be substantially higher. That being said, I'm curious about the design of the ram air. A few weeks ago, I tried to do a quick look on the piping, since on the X, the bottom bumper side holes are closed off. I dont see any spot in the front that would allow "ram" air.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gao
Thats not the whole story. You have to factor in the area under the curve. Max may be +3 but all other places hp/toq may be substantially higher. That being said, I'm curious about the design of the ram air. A few weeks ago, I tried to do a quick look on the piping, since on the X, the bottom bumper side holes are closed off. I dont see any spot in the front that would allow "ram" air.
Guys, my whole point was that a gaining three hp from "ram" air at 60mph doesn't warrant me taking the time to look at all of the connections/look under the hood to make sure everything is functioning as advertised. If Infiniti had marketed that the "ram" air affect gave you 15-20hp more at 60mph, you better believe that I'm going to get the G dynoed/look under the hood etc. to make sure they are telling the truth. Just stating what I would have done. I'm not saying what you are doing is wrong.

gao, I'm not sure I'm following you here. I understand derivatives/area under the curve and the max being 3+. How exactly does that translate to hp and tq. I'm not trying to be a smart***, I'd actually like to learn something here.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Guys, my whole point was that a gaining three hp from "ram" air at 60mph doesn't warrant me taking the time to look at all of the connections/look under the hood to make sure everything is functioning as advertised. If Infiniti had marketed that the "ram" air affect gave you 15-20hp more at 60mph, you better believe that I'm going to get the G dynoed/look under the hood etc. to make sure they are telling the truth. Just stating what I would have done. I'm not saying what you are doing is wrong.

gao, I'm not sure I'm following you here. I understand derivatives/area under the curve and the max being 3+. How exactly does that translate to hp and tq. I'm not trying to be a smart***, I'd actually like to learn something here.

Who cares? Honestly...its just 3HP. Stock the 07 is pretty damn quick from 306HP...so what is an extra 3HP at higher speeds? I dont mean to offend or disrespect you, but why are you being so nitpicky?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by badtziscool

The weird thing though is that on the 07s the grill somewhat twists towards the end so it closes up. You could probably get a stronger ram air effect if that part of the grill was wide open.
That's not necessarily true. Bigger isnt always better. If air is being forced into that grille, it will have to lower it's pressure and speed up to be able to bypass the "blocks", to overcome the resistance.

I put more narrow air tubes on my race bike and saw an increadible difference. People who go with wider ones complain that their bike is a "dog" now....
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chilibowl
Who cares? Honestly...its just 3HP. Stock the 07 is pretty damn quick from 306HP...so what is an extra 3HP at higher speeds? I dont mean to offend or disrespect you, but why are you being so nitpicky?
That was my point in the beginning!!!! Or at least I thought. Oi! I give up.
 

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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That was my point in the beginning!!!! Or at least I thought. Oi! I give up.
I understood what you were saying Alex. Obviously chilibowl misread your post.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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I understood what you were saying Alex. Obviously chilibowl misread your post.
Yeah, I was wondering if I was typing Swahili for sec.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Didn't mean to start anyting here guys. I was just curious as to how creative Infinit got with their piping? I will look for myself if and when I get the car.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Didn't mean to start anyting here guys. I was just curious as to how creative Infinit got with their piping? I will look for myself if and when I get the car.
You didn't, you're fine. There were just a couple of misread posts...'tis all.
 
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